[REL] Thomsen's Ships V3.1 is out! All credits to H.SIE (10/12/2008) - Page 3

Commander Gizmo · 10-31-08, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

Any chance you can attenuate the very unrealistic "bobbing" of ships in calmer waters. Just one look at the "floating docks" in kiel gives me a stomache ache, how the hell a bloke was supposed to hammer rivets whilst the whole rig is jumping about the place like a rodeo is beyone me.

I get the impression the ships are no where near "heavy" enough in calmer waters. I've been on big, small and medium ships in my time including HMS Sheffield (old destroyer, sunk in Falklands/Malvinas/Whatever)....not one of them bobbed they way SH3 ships do.

Right, thats my "moan of the day" aired....now whose for a came of fluffy care-ball.

You might try the Lifeboats and Debris with Boyancy Update. I makes the boats feel alot 'heavier' in the water.

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-31-08, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Uber Gruber

Any chance you can attenuate the very unrealistic "bobbing" of ships in calmer waters. Just one look at the "floating docks" in kiel gives me a stomache ache, how the hell a bloke was supposed to hammer rivets whilst the whole rig is jumping about the place like a rodeo is beyone me.

I get the impression the ships are no where near "heavy" enough in calmer waters. I've been on big, small and medium ships in my time including HMS Sheffield (old destroyer, sunk in Falklands/Malvinas/Whatever)....not one of them bobbed they way SH3 ships do.

Right, thats my "moan of the day" aired....now whose for a came of fluffy care-ball.

Bastard! Almost got me fired! :rotfl:

I was reading your "floating dock" comentary and laughing my ass off, when all off the sudden, my boss enters my room and say "whatta hell are you laughing at?". I had to invent a story, it was pretty close...

Anyway, don't worry about the bobbing, I'm fixing that.

No, I'm not improving that, I'm FIXING that!

Task Force · 10-31-08, 02:05 PM

Yay, no more hitting fingers while hammering in nails and stuff.

Erich dem Roten · 10-31-08, 02:55 PM

I really look forward to seeing how this turns out

My only concern is convoy behavior after it becomes evident it is under attack. Once these big merchants start zig-zagging, are we going to see the convoy lanes smashing through each other? Or will the AI be smart enough to either synchronize its movements or take an evasive course?

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-31-08, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Erich dem Roten

I really look forward to seeing how this turns out

My only concern is convoy behavior after it becomes evident it is under attack. Once these big merchants start zig-zagging, are we going to see the convoy lanes smashing through each other? Or will the AI be smart enough to either synchronize its movements or take an evasive course?

Ships will behave like ships, they will be slow and heavy, slow acceleration and slow brakes and slow turns, just like a ships should be.

If the ship's ramm eachother, it's not the ship's fault, it's the capitain's fault.

Paul_IronCoffin · 10-31-08, 04:41 PM

Fantastic news!! Thanks for your efforts Philipp_Thomsen.

...just one cheeky thing. As an accountant I can definitely say WIP = Work In Progress

cheers
Paul

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-31-08, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul_IronCoffin

Fantastic news!! Thanks for your efforts Philipp_Thomsen.

...just one cheeky thing. As an accountant I can definitely say WIP = Work In Progress

cheers
Paul

Really? I always thought it was "within production"...

Great, thanks for letting me know!

Philipp_Thomsen · 11-01-08, 09:55 AM

The most strange thing just happened now. I went to bed late, around 3am, trying to set the ships for this mod. They didn't behave like I imagined. Then I went to bed, and I had a dream about modding this. I dreamt that I was imputing some values in S3D, and I woke up in a shock, like a bad dream, around noon... the values were still in my head. I went straight away to the computer and test those values, and they work like a charm!

lol...

I really need to stop modding...

Task Force · 11-01-08, 10:16 AM

Lol, You myfriend think better when sleeping.

Myself, I dont think when im awake or asleep.

Commander Gizmo · 11-01-08, 01:36 PM

I have often had similar revelations PT. Amazing what the brain can do when dreaming!

Sag75 · 11-01-08, 05:33 PM

oh yes! during sleeping the brain is not turned off!
it has a good activity as well as we are awake!

amazing Nature misteries....

Philipp_Thomsen · 11-01-08, 08:18 PM

First preview of the progress with the mod!

Look how steady and firm those ships look. No bobbing!

Now you might say: "meh, the water is calm, that's why!"

So I made the last half of the video with the most stormy conditions possible (15m/s winds) so you can see the ships are looking great.

During the storm, you can see a little bit of the waves going inside the ships, but don't worry, the ships don't sink, I've tested. The waves are doing that cos in my water mod the tips of the waves are too high, too pointed in stormy conditions, so they go higher.

Hope to read some criticism on this!

Philipp_Thomsen · 11-02-08, 01:12 AM

Where the bloody hell is the people in this forum???

oh... it's 4:20 am...

damn... off to bed!

Tomorrow Massa will show Hamilton what a true champion is made of.

If it weren't for Ferrari's bunch of errors, he would be champion already.

Jimbuna · 11-02-08, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

Where the bloody hell is the people in this forum???

oh... it's 4:20 am...

damn... off to bed!

Tomorrow Massa will show Hamilton what a true champion is made of.

If it weren't for Ferrari's bunch of errors, he would be champion already.

Are you a gambling man then? :hmm:

Fubar2Niner · 11-02-08, 06:29 AM

Great WIP video Philipp. I have to agree with Mikhayl the waves washing the decks adds to he realism IMHO. Can't wait for the release

Best regards.

Fubar2Niner

10-31-08, 02:05 PM	#33
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yay, no more hitting fingers while hammering in nails and stuff. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

10-31-08, 02:55 PM	#34
Erich dem Roten Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 134 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	I really look forward to seeing how this turns out My only concern is convoy behavior after it becomes evident it is under attack. Once these big merchants start zig-zagging, are we going to see the convoy lanes smashing through each other? Or will the AI be smart enough to either synchronize its movements or take an evasive course? __________________

11-01-08, 09:55 AM	#38
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	The most strange thing just happened now. I went to bed late, around 3am, trying to set the ships for this mod. They didn't behave like I imagined. Then I went to bed, and I had a dream about modding this. I dreamt that I was imputing some values in S3D, and I woke up in a shock, like a bad dream, around noon... the values were still in my head. I went straight away to the computer and test those values, and they work like a charm! lol... I really need to stop modding... __________________ To each his own

11-01-08, 10:16 AM	#39
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Lol, You myfriend think better when sleeping. Myself, I dont think when im awake or asleep. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

11-01-08, 05:33 PM	#41
Sag75 XO Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 424 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 0	oh yes! during sleeping the brain is not turned off! it has a good activity as well as we are awake! amazing Nature misteries.... __________________ Betasom - XI Gruppo Sommergibili Atlantici http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php

10-31-08, 04:41 PM	#36
Paul_IronCoffin Gunner Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: St. James, Barbados Posts: 99 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Fantastic news!! Thanks for your efforts Philipp_Thomsen. ...just one cheeky thing. As an accountant I can definitely say WIP = Work In Progress cheers Paul

11-01-08, 01:36 PM	#40
Commander Gizmo Watch Officer Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 4	I have often had similar revelations PT. Amazing what the brain can do when dreaming!

11-01-08, 08:18 PM	#42
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	First preview of the progress with the mod! Look how steady and firm those ships look. No bobbing! Now you might say: "meh, the water is calm, that's why!" So I made the last half of the video with the most stormy conditions possible (15m/s winds) so you can see the ships are looking great. During the storm, you can see a little bit of the waves going inside the ships, but don't worry, the ships don't sink, I've tested. The waves are doing that cos in my water mod the tips of the waves are too high, too pointed in stormy conditions, so they go higher. Hope to read some criticism on this! __________________ To each his own

11-02-08, 01:12 AM	#43
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Where the bloody hell is the people in this forum??? oh... it's 4:20 am... damn... off to bed! Tomorrow Massa will show Hamilton what a true champion is made of. If it weren't for Ferrari's bunch of errors, he would be champion already. __________________ To each his own

11-02-08, 06:29 AM	#45
Fubar2Niner Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London. UK Posts: 4,139 Downloads: 275 Uploads: 0	Great WIP video Philipp. I have to agree with Mikhayl the waves washing the decks adds to he realism IMHO. Can't wait for the release Best regards. Fubar2Niner