This fragile, precious present moment...

Skybird · 06-22-19, 06:52 PM

It may be quite speculative, but still - it makes you thinking. Putting things into relation a bit. An awful lot of a bit.

If after this film you still hesitate to do this one, special thing that you always felt too afraid to do, maybe you want to watch it again.

But also a word of warning: if you look too long into the abyss, the abyss ultimately starts looking back into you. I found stuff like this always being cathartic - at the price of being horrifying at the same time. For myself, I have come to naming it as "the third state of mind" - when I cannot decide whether I want to focus on the terror or the consolation in it. Dealing with astronomy and cosmology has this strange effect on me, yes.

Sean C · 06-23-19, 12:27 AM

Title of this thread reminded me of this:

em2nought · 06-23-19, 07:01 AM

This video reminds me of watching the national debt clock.

https://usdebtclock.org/

Rockstar · 06-23-19, 09:24 AM

kewl find skybird, and I did watch it twice. Eeire now I know what it might feel like if someone were to know the exact day of their death. I'm not upset though, as I think it is mind which is matrix of the universe and that energy which made up the cosmos would still be there only free from the perceived bonds of this physical universe.

But what I want to know is, if we all go green today can we stop this from happening and save this ever changing planet Earth and the cosmos? OMG I just realized Algore was right, we need to act now!

Onkel Neal · 06-23-19, 12:08 PM

Dammit, that reminds me i have an overdue library book.

Skybird · 06-23-19, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Dammit, that reminds me i have an overdue library book.

Don't worry, in the end it does not matter.

Sailor Steve · 06-23-19, 05:03 PM

I found it a bit boring, and it's driving me crazy trying to figure out why. I think the predictions of what might happen were a lot more speculative than I thought they were going to be. A lot of predictions based on how we know things happen were mixed with pure imagination. Even the enlightened imagination of accomplished scientists is, in the end, no better than any other.

I did like hearing all the well-know scientists who lent their voices to the video, though Neil Degrasse Tyson was the only one I positively recognized.

Rockstar · 06-23-19, 09:43 PM

I would say the video was more hypothetical than speculative.

Catfish · 06-24-19, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

"Dammit, that reminds me i have an overdue library book."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

Don't worry, in the end it does not matter.

I guess that was Neal's point

And fixed: " ...in the end there is no matter".

I liked it, a bit too much speculation but we will see to that. Why someone 'resigns' and says we better do not explore because it is frightening is beyond me though.

Skybird · 06-24-19, 04:23 AM

I did not say we shall stop researching space. I hinted at that big nothingness that it all is that we are surrounded by - an empty abyss, of proportions the human psyche I thinbk is not really made for to bear, thats why we are so busy with tewlling fictional tales to yourselves to give our lífe a menaing and our doing a power to bring structure into the nothingness.

Imagining to hang in a space suit in the middle of nothing and all the light spots around but nothing, really nothing being close by, to me holds no more fascination anymore, but is just fearsome. I think the vastness of this nothing is just too much for the human mind to deal with. I think most simply seek ways to evade it.

Advanced medidation can lead you there, too, a state of mind that often is described as standing on top of a high, steep cliff at darkest midnight - and then blindly jumping into the dark abyss before you, to leave the ego behind.

Comparing to that, standing in the middle of the Sahara at night or beign on the high seas in the middle of the Pacific, and seeing nothing, is a very claustrophobic experience.

Inner space, outer space - I often think it all is just one and the same and the space out there is just our inner mind but turned inside out, "auf Links gezogen".

06-22-19, 06:52 PM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,492 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	This fragile, precious present moment... It may be quite speculative, but still - it makes you thinking. Putting things into relation a bit. An awful lot of a bit. If after this film you still hesitate to do this one, special thing that you always felt too afraid to do, maybe you want to watch it again. But also a word of warning: if you look too long into the abyss, the abyss ultimately starts looking back into you. I found stuff like this always being cathartic - at the price of being horrifying at the same time. For myself, I have come to naming it as "the third state of mind" - when I cannot decide whether I want to focus on the terror or the consolation in it. Dealing with astronomy and cosmology has this strange effect on me, yes. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-23-19, 12:27 AM	#2
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06-23-19, 07:01 AM	#3
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,265 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	This video reminds me of watching the national debt clock. https://usdebtclock.org/ __________________ Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.

06-23-19, 09:24 AM	#4
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,834 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	kewl find skybird, and I did watch it twice. Eeire now I know what it might feel like if someone were to know the exact day of their death. I'm not upset though, as I think it is mind which is matrix of the universe and that energy which made up the cosmos would still be there only free from the perceived bonds of this physical universe. But what I want to know is, if we all go green today can we stop this from happening and save this ever changing planet Earth and the cosmos? OMG I just realized Algore was right, we need to act now! __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time. Last edited by Rockstar; 06-23-19 at 10:51 AM.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I found it a bit boring, and it's driving me crazy trying to figure out why. I think the predictions of what might happen were a lot more speculative than I thought they were going to be. A lot of predictions based on how we know things happen were mixed with pure imagination. Even the enlightened imagination of accomplished scientists is, in the end, no better than any other. I did like hearing all the well-know scientists who lent their voices to the video, though Neil Degrasse Tyson was the only one I positively recognized. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-23-19, 09:43 PM	#8
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,834 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I would say the video was more hypothetical than speculative. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

06-24-19, 04:23 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,492 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I did not say we shall stop researching space. I hinted at that big nothingness that it all is that we are surrounded by - an empty abyss, of proportions the human psyche I thinbk is not really made for to bear, thats why we are so busy with tewlling fictional tales to yourselves to give our lífe a menaing and our doing a power to bring structure into the nothingness. Imagining to hang in a space suit in the middle of nothing and all the light spots around but nothing, really nothing being close by, to me holds no more fascination anymore, but is just fearsome. I think the vastness of this nothing is just too much for the human mind to deal with. I think most simply seek ways to evade it. Advanced medidation can lead you there, too, a state of mind that often is described as standing on top of a high, steep cliff at darkest midnight - and then blindly jumping into the dark abyss before you, to leave the ego behind. Comparing to that, standing in the middle of the Sahara at night or beign on the high seas in the middle of the Pacific, and seeing nothing, is a very claustrophobic experience. Inner space, outer space - I often think it all is just one and the same and the space out there is just our inner mind but turned inside out, "auf Links gezogen". __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.