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Old 11-21-16, 08:04 PM   #46
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Just a guess. Could be the name Hell's Angels and the graphics on the plane weren't considered to be all that family friendly.
If I recall correctly, Hell's Angels was the first B-17 to complete twenty-five missions, but Morgan's was the first crew to complete a full tour. They decided to celebrate the men, not the aircraft.

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Hell's Angels' reputation had been firmly established in the States long before her return home. She was one of the original bombers the 303rd's crews had taken to England in late October 1942, and on May 14, 1943, she was the first Fortress in the Eighth to complete 25 missions against the Reich. Though this fact was obscured somewhat by the earlier return of the 91st Group's Memphis Belle (the Belle was the first Fortress to fly home with a crew that had completed a 25-mission tour), Hell's Angels soldiered on, establishing a record of reliability unequaled during the early, grim months of the air war by any other bomber in the ETO: 40 straight missions without an abort.
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Hell's Angels flew her 48th and final combat flight on December 13, 1943, when she was withdrawn from frontline service. She had, in all her raids, established another remarkable record: Not one of her crewmen was ever killed or wounded in action.
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Old 11-21-16, 09:39 PM   #47
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Jim, the real Memphis Belle Morgan flew was an F model... no chin turret. The "imposter" is a G model B-17 with the chin turret, so yes, it is an imposter.
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Old 11-22-16, 12:33 AM   #48
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Fiction right? Most references for the Lucky Lady II refer to the B-50 Stratofortress that circled the globe non stop in 1949 but there is a small blurb about a B-17 also with that name which crashed in Belgium in 1943. Cold that be the AC you are referring to?
pure fiction.

I swiped the name of the aircraft from a monogram model catalogue i had during the time
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Old 11-22-16, 07:21 AM   #49
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Jim, the real Memphis Belle Morgan flew was an F model... no chin turret. The "imposter" is a G model B-17 with the chin turret, so yes, it is an imposter.
I was aware matey but thanks all the same for the reminder
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pure fiction.

I swiped the name of the aircraft from a monogram model catalogue i had during the time
That'd make a pretty cool diorama.

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I got to see the old girl at Reading PA Air Show.

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I got to see the old girl at Reading PA Air Show.
Was that the WWII Weekend?

Jim, I figured you would know . But it was to let others know too, that might not have known, the model the real Memphis Belle was. I had one guy at an airshow argue about it to no end. A friend heard us and came over to back me up and set him straight. He wasn't happy at all. LOL
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Was that the WWII Weekend?

Jim, I figured you would know . But it was to let others know too, that might not have known, the model the real Memphis Belle was. I had one guy at an airshow argue about it to no end. A friend heard us and came over to back me up and set him straight. He wasn't happy at all. LOL
I should have been more obvious by posting a picture of the opposite side of the nose as well


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Was that the WWII Weekend?
Yes sir. I have attended 3 times. Absolutely the best hands on air show I have attended.
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Yes sir. I have attended 3 times. Absolutely the best hands on air show I have attended.
Next June we'll have to get together at the show and have dinner and a couple of brews over at Texas Roadhouse. I work with the Flight Line Safety crew, so just ask where I am. If I'm taking a bit of time off I'll be over by the DH Mosquito. Yes... sucking up for a ride. LOL Another for my Bucket List.
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Next June we'll have to get together at the show and have dinner and a couple of brews over at Texas Roadhouse. I work with the Flight Line Safety crew, so just ask where I am. If I'm taking a bit of time off I'll be over by the DH Mosquito. Yes... sucking up for a ride. LOL Another for my Bucket List.
Sounds like a good plan. I have not been in a few years.
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Default Whilw we're waiting...

I'm waiting as patiently as I can for The Mighty Eighth too, guys. If you're after some B-17 series drama in the meantime, you can follow the story of a B-17 called "Better Duck" over on my channel.

It's a playthrough series of B-17 Queen of the Skies solitaire boardgame and the crew is my mates and myself. I've striven to make it as movie-like as possible while still obviously a boardgame. There's archive footage sprinkled throughout and it's apparently a fun watch.

Mission 1 is here
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Welcome to Subsim, arcuspilot!
Gaame looks interesting, and the video is well-made!


OT regarding cardbox games I have recently seen a Zeppelin airship cardboard game, "simulating" a german WW1 Zeppelin on various raids and recconnaissance missions. It is quite complicated, you have cards for ballast, hydrogenium, ammunition, fuel, then event cards like wind, storm, rain, ice, clouds, buoyancy changing at various altitudes, enemy fire, ground fire, all mixed and based on your own altitude and conduct of the airship. It looks astonishing 'real', and very hard to survive.. I think i will get it
I wish someone could put this in a PC simulation, although i admit it would be very hard to do properly. All the airships that are in electronic sims, are merely modelled on dynamic flying, like a big plane with certain properties, but never including static buoyancy and the like.
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Welcome Aboard arcuspilot, I am well impressed with the mission videos and already up to no 4
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