Not getting credit for ships sunk in TMO 2.5/RSRD

hocking · 09-05-13, 12:41 AM

Just got back from a patrol where I sunk 6 ships. However, I am only getting credit for 3 of these ships after docking back at port. I either torpedoed or shot with deck gun all 6 ships and then watched them sink in front of me in pretty short order. All ships sunk in immediate proximity to my boat. This happened once before on an earlier patrol where I did not get credit for 1 or 2 sinkings.

My mod order is:

1_TriggerMaru_Overahaul_2-5
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance
TGT DIALS TO PK FIX - TMO
SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Distrubance_v4_0_SH3
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2

Please let me know if my mods are out of order, or what may be causing this problem. Thanks.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-05-13, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by hocking

Just got back from a patrol where I sunk 6 ships. However, I am only getting credit for 3 of these ships after docking back at port. I either torpedoed or shot with deck gun all 6 ships and then watched them sink in front of me in pretty short order. All ships sunk in immediate proximity to my boat. This happened once before on an earlier patrol where I did not get credit for 1 or 2 sinkings.

My mod order is:

1_TriggerMaru_Overahaul_2-5
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance
TGT DIALS TO PK FIX - TMO
SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0
TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Distrubance_v4_0_SH3
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2

Please let me know if my mods are out of order, or what may be causing this problem. Thanks.

Did you save and reload before going to port? This happens sometimes, its a bug and no idea why it does it.Also, there are times if you damage a ship and it sinks far enough away from you, you dont get credit for whatever reason

Rockin Robbins · 09-05-13, 08:48 AM

In general if it sinks outside sensor range it didn't sink. Part of the improvement with SH4UBM was that traffic ceased to be real and became quantum traffic. Before you detected it, it both did and did not exist. If it passes back out of sensor range it's Schrodinger's Cat, neither real nor unreal, dead or undead. And you don't get credit for undead ships.

You must wait long enough to see the sunk ship icon on your map to get credit.

hocking · 09-08-13, 02:02 AM

The ships sunk within a few 1000 yards of me. I watched them sink, so it is not that they sunk out of sensor range at all. I do save my patrols from time to time and reload them. I guess I didn't do this right before entering port, but I did save the game at different times after sinking the ships. However, every time I reloaded the game I would see that all of the ships that I had sunk still appeared in my on-ship log book.

I never get ship sinking icons on my map as I have map updates turned off.

Any other ideas as to why this would happen?

TorpX · 09-09-13, 01:49 AM

So, what you're saying is that they are listed in ship's log as sunk, but not when you get back home?

About the sunken ship icons; I thought that those showed up whether or not you used the map updates.

I don't know what's causing your problems. Do you get the message from your crew, "she's goin' down.."?

hocking · 09-10-13, 08:26 AM

Yes, I do get the message that "she's going down..". I can also see the ship listed in my on-board log as well before getting back to port. It immediately gets listed right after seeing that the ship has gone down. I do not get the ship sinking icon on my map. I do have map updates turned off so I thought that was why I didn't get the ship sinking icons.

This has actually happened twice to me now. I think I have lost credit for about 5 or 6 ships that were sunk on two different patrols.

TorpX · 09-11-13, 01:42 AM

Based on what others have posted, I know that it's possible to get cheated out of tonnage because you have sunk the same ships more than once. [That is, having ships spawn again and re-sinking them.] I assume you have already discounted this possiblity. I can't think of anything else.

Armistead · 09-11-13, 02:06 PM

Don't see a problem with the mods.

As stated, I've heard many complain this happens if you do a lot of saving. Just make sure if you save, use a different save name, don't overwrite the same one.

This bug does seem to happen more with contacts off, but still rare, happens to me a few times in years, always with contacts off.

Sometimes ships ghost, simply a previous sunk ship respawns, but it's not really there, you sink it, no credit at all. For instance, I sunk 6 in a convoy, leave the spawn zone they were in, come back, they're there, but only ghost, no credit for sinking.

Anyway, don't overwrite your saves, maybe that will help. If it happens all the time, sounds like a bugged file.

KaleunMarco · 04-08-15, 05:20 PM

i have experienced the same thing that Armistead describes. Ships are visible and i can expend ammo to sink them (both torpedos and cannon shells), they sink but never appear in my log and i do not receive credit. i am running stock 1.5 with no mods.

it was disappointing to discover but once i resolved the fact that it is n unexpected feature i can execute saves and work around it.

has anyone figured out a "real" fix?

09-05-13, 12:41 AM	#1
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	Not getting credit for ships sunk in TMO 2.5/RSRD Just got back from a patrol where I sunk 6 ships. However, I am only getting credit for 3 of these ships after docking back at port. I either torpedoed or shot with deck gun all 6 ships and then watched them sink in front of me in pretty short order. All ships sunk in immediate proximity to my boat. This happened once before on an earlier patrol where I did not get credit for 1 or 2 sinkings. My mod order is: 1_TriggerMaru_Overahaul_2-5 RSRDC_TMO_V502 RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1 TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_Performance TGT DIALS TO PK FIX - TMO SCAF for RSRDC v502_2.0 TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Distrubance_v4_0_SH3 MaxOptics IV for TMO_2 Please let me know if my mods are out of order, or what may be causing this problem. Thanks.

09-05-13, 08:48 AM	#3
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	In general if it sinks outside sensor range it didn't sink. Part of the improvement with SH4UBM was that traffic ceased to be real and became quantum traffic. Before you detected it, it both did and did not exist. If it passes back out of sensor range it's Schrodinger's Cat, neither real nor unreal, dead or undead. And you don't get credit for undead ships. You must wait long enough to see the sunk ship icon on your map to get credit. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-09-13, 01:49 AM	#5
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	So, what you're saying is that they are listed in ship's log as sunk, but not when you get back home? About the sunken ship icons; I thought that those showed up whether or not you used the map updates. I don't know what's causing your problems. Do you get the message from your crew, "she's goin' down.."?

09-11-13, 02:06 PM	#8
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Don't see a problem with the mods. As stated, I've heard many complain this happens if you do a lot of saving. Just make sure if you save, use a different save name, don't overwrite the same one. This bug does seem to happen more with contacts off, but still rare, happens to me a few times in years, always with contacts off. Sometimes ships ghost, simply a previous sunk ship respawns, but it's not really there, you sink it, no credit at all. For instance, I sunk 6 in a convoy, leave the spawn zone they were in, come back, they're there, but only ghost, no credit for sinking. Anyway, don't overwrite your saves, maybe that will help. If it happens all the time, sounds like a bugged file. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-08-13, 02:02 AM	#4
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	The ships sunk within a few 1000 yards of me. I watched them sink, so it is not that they sunk out of sensor range at all. I do save my patrols from time to time and reload them. I guess I didn't do this right before entering port, but I did save the game at different times after sinking the ships. However, every time I reloaded the game I would see that all of the ships that I had sunk still appeared in my on-ship log book. I never get ship sinking icons on my map as I have map updates turned off. Any other ideas as to why this would happen?

09-10-13, 08:26 AM	#6
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	Yes, I do get the message that "she's going down..". I can also see the ship listed in my on-board log as well before getting back to port. It immediately gets listed right after seeing that the ship has gone down. I do not get the ship sinking icon on my map. I do have map updates turned off so I thought that was why I didn't get the ship sinking icons. This has actually happened twice to me now. I think I have lost credit for about 5 or 6 ships that were sunk on two different patrols.

09-11-13, 01:42 AM	#7
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Based on what others have posted, I know that it's possible to get cheated out of tonnage because you have sunk the same ships more than once. [That is, having ships spawn again and re-sinking them.] I assume you have already discounted this possiblity. I can't think of anything else.

04-08-15, 05:20 PM	#9
KaleunMarco Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago area, which is more dangerous than Omaha Beach. Posts: 3,927 Downloads: 436 Uploads: 27	i have experienced the same thing that Armistead describes. Ships are visible and i can expend ammo to sink them (both torpedos and cannon shells), they sink but never appear in my log and i do not receive credit. i am running stock 1.5 with no mods. it was disappointing to discover but once i resolved the fact that it is n unexpected feature i can execute saves and work around it. has anyone figured out a "real" fix?