The Cruel sea 1953 = Awesome...;)

Trool323 · 04-05-10, 06:07 AM

Thanks again to KING111 for the mention of the film. I saw it for the 1st time last night. Its a good black and white about frigates and DDs during the WWII U boat war..Good action too for 1953. There is also a cute blonde in it...

here is the wiki for the film -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cruel_Sea_(film)#Plot

sharkbit · 04-05-10, 08:05 AM

Haven't seen the movie. I'll have to check it out.

If you haven't read the book, check it out. It is an excellent fiction book based on the author's experiences serving on escorts during WWII.
I highly recommend it.

Sailor Steve · 04-05-10, 04:18 PM

The movie is fun, but leaves out a lot. What it keeps in, though, follows the book pretty well.

If you like Monsarrat's fiction, here's a book with some of his short stories, and the truth about The Cruel Sea, including the real name of HMS Compass Rose:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=90

clive bradbury · 04-05-10, 05:09 PM

Jack Hawkins' greatest performance by a great actor. The image of him on the open bridge in that duffel cost will stay with me forever. The role is based on Walker, of course.

Hawkins brilliance in this film is that he consistently avoids cliche. He maintains his humanity throughout despite being a remorseless hunter. If you have not seen this film - you must.

Sailor Steve · 04-05-10, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trool323

There is also a cute blonde in it...

Virginia McKenna. I became a fan of hers when she starred in Born Free, which was released when I was sixteen. The Cruel Sea was only her third movie, and she was still working as recently as 2005.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0571441/

04-05-10, 06:45 PM

I actually saw this not so long ago. Very good and had an authenticity about it that can't be achieved through CGI etc.

KING111 · 04-06-10, 10:05 AM

yes it is a great film i can not make up my mind
what is the better film this one or das boat

04-06-10, 10:29 AM

Why does one need to be better than the other? Both are excellent adaptions of the original books, both are superbly acted, scripted and filmed. Enjoy both for what they are.

Sailor Steve · 04-06-10, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

I actually saw this not so long ago. Very good and had an authenticity about it that can't be achieved through CGI etc.

Partly because they still had a real corvette to film on.

geosub1978 · 04-06-10, 10:32 AM

Check this: Action in the North Atlantic . It is very good, with Humprey Bogart also known as "Murmansk".

frau kaleun · 04-06-10, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by clive bradbury

Jack Hawkins' greatest performance by a great actor. The image of him on the open bridge in that duffel cost will stay with me forever. The role is based on Walker, of course.

Hawkins brilliance in this film is that he consistently avoids cliche. He maintains his humanity throughout despite being a remorseless hunter. If you have not seen this film - you must.

Well I have put it at the top of my queue so I should have it in a couple days. Hawkins is one of those great character actors that I saw a lot growing up (being a fan of old movies) but never put a name to until I got older and started paying attention more and realized how much I enjoyed his work.

There are some performers that are so wonderful in such subtle ways that it takes a while for the effect to sink in, at least for me. Claude Rains, for example, how many times did I see Casablanca as a kid before I realized as an adult that he completely steals every scene he's in, and not by chewing the scenery or getting in the way of the other actors. But any scene (in any movie) that he's a part of seems to be the better for his presence, lol.

Ablemaster · 04-09-10, 05:35 AM

Watched this last night, havent seen it since i was a kid, excellent movie, seems to show some kind of special realism compared to modern day movies. Great story, and fine acting too.

perisher · 04-11-10, 06:37 PM

HMS Compass Rose was "played" in the film by the ex-Greek Navy Kriezis, which was the former HMS Coreopsis. One evening while returning to Plymouth after a day's filming, she was shifting her White Ensign for her Red Ensign when she met the USS Missouri. The Mighty Mo was unsure of the Kriezis status, was she a warship or a merchant? The battleship made the signal, "What ship?" The reply was "MV Kriezis, formely HHMS Kriezis, formerly HMS Coreopsis staring as HMS Compass Rose in the Cruel Sea. What ship?"
The Mighty Mo did not reply.

My source for this story is Capt. Jack Broome DSC, RN, who was a technical advisor for the film. He was, also, the former escort commander of Convoy PQ17.

perisher · 04-11-10, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Partly because they still had a real corvette to film on.

In 1957, when they made the film, "The Yangtse Incident", about HMS Amethyst being trapped in the Yangtse River by Communist Chinese artillery in 1949, the had the real Amethyst to film on, but in those pre-CGI days the real explosives used for the special effects did more damage to the ship that the Chinese artillery ever did.

Sailor Steve · 04-12-10, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by perisher

In 1957, when they made the film, "The Yangtse Incident", about HMS Amethyst being trapped in the Yangtse River by Communist Chinese artillery in 1949, the had the real Amethyst to film on, but in those pre-CGI days the real explosives used for the special effects did more damage to the ship that the Chinese artillery ever did.

Yep, when they were readily available they were considered readily expendable. Near the beginning of the 1949 movie Twelve O'Clock High they have a B-17 belly land in the grass, just because they could.

04-05-10, 06:07 AM	#1
Trool323 Sparky Join Date: May 2007 Location: southwest ohio Posts: 154 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	The Cruel sea 1953 = Awesome...;) Thanks again to KING111 for the mention of the film. I saw it for the 1st time last night. Its a good black and white about frigates and DDs during the WWII U boat war..Good action too for 1953. There is also a cute blonde in it... here is the wiki for the film - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cruel_Sea_(film)#Plot __________________ My old Warp to patrol area tutorial is below for SH4. It allows you to jump to the patrol zone. Just like we use to be able to do in SH 1. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=158704

04-05-10, 08:05 AM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Haven't seen the movie. I'll have to check it out. If you haven't read the book, check it out. It is an excellent fiction book based on the author's experiences serving on escorts during WWII. I highly recommend it. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

04-05-10, 04:18 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The movie is fun, but leaves out a lot. What it keeps in, though, follows the book pretty well. If you like Monsarrat's fiction, here's a book with some of his short stories, and the truth about The Cruel Sea, including the real name of HMS Compass Rose: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...9&postcount=90 __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-06-10, 10:32 AM	#10
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	Check this: Action in the North Atlantic . It is very good, with Humprey Bogart also known as "Murmansk". __________________

04-09-10, 05:35 AM	#12
Ablemaster An able master Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: England Posts: 274 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 5	Watched this last night, havent seen it since i was a kid, excellent movie, seems to show some kind of special realism compared to modern day movies. Great story, and fine acting too. __________________

04-05-10, 05:09 PM	#4
clive bradbury Captain Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: stoke-on-trent, UK Posts: 492 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Jack Hawkins' greatest performance by a great actor. The image of him on the open bridge in that duffel cost will stay with me forever. The role is based on Walker, of course. Hawkins brilliance in this film is that he consistently avoids cliche. He maintains his humanity throughout despite being a remorseless hunter. If you have not seen this film - you must.

04-05-10, 06:45 PM	#6
OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I actually saw this not so long ago. Very good and had an authenticity about it that can't be achieved through CGI etc.

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KING111 Navy Dude Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 178 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 0	yes it is a great film i can not make up my mind what is the better film this one or das boat

04-06-10, 10:29 AM	#8
Randomizer Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Why does one need to be better than the other? Both are excellent adaptions of the original books, both are superbly acted, scripted and filmed. Enjoy both for what they are.

04-11-10, 06:37 PM	#13
perisher Frogman Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 300 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	HMS Compass Rose was "played" in the film by the ex-Greek Navy Kriezis, which was the former HMS Coreopsis. One evening while returning to Plymouth after a day's filming, she was shifting her White Ensign for her Red Ensign when she met the USS Missouri. The Mighty Mo was unsure of the Kriezis status, was she a warship or a merchant? The battleship made the signal, "What ship?" The reply was "MV Kriezis, formely HHMS Kriezis, formerly HMS Coreopsis staring as HMS Compass Rose in the Cruel Sea. What ship?" The Mighty Mo did not reply. My source for this story is Capt. Jack Broome DSC, RN, who was a technical advisor for the film. He was, also, the former escort commander of Convoy PQ17. __________________ "Pitt was the greatest fool who ever lived to encourage a mode of war which they who commanded the seas did not want, and which, if successful, would deprive them of it." Earl St.Vincent (allegedly)