[REL] Realistic Sinking Physics - Page 10

CaptainCox · 07-13-07, 12:43 PM

Was just going to load up my last save (1,3) here....should I wait for a fix or?
Keep up the good work WernerSobe!

tater · 07-13-07, 12:45 PM

Cox, it is more likely with any mod that adds cargos to ships.

This mod doesn't change the chance beyond the stock game any, it's a problem with the stock game. It is entirely reproducible, however.

I need a "super torpedo" mod to test differently...

CaptainCox · 07-13-07, 12:47 PM

Cheers tater! try the Torpedo Cheat maybe
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110505

WernerSobe · 07-13-07, 02:54 PM

well i didnt know.

I dont think we can do anything there. It must be a bug with the ship model itself not with the damage system. And you cannot disable that they break when they are hit criticaly. Well one thing you can try... Set the critical chance for the keel in "NEW SMALL MERCHANTS" section to 0.0 and see what happens.

tater · 07-13-07, 03:09 PM

I tried setting the one on top =No

I tried setting the chance =0.0

neither worked, still a CTD.

tater

WernerSobe · 07-13-07, 03:27 PM

i supposed that. Well there is nothing we can do its a bug with the ship model.

mgbmike · 07-15-07, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WernerSobe

i supposed that. Well there is nothing we can do its a bug with the ship model.

Werner,

Just a heads up:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=118352&page=2

Possible fix for the CTD

WernerSobe · 07-15-07, 12:14 PM

ok thanks ill get it into next version if i get permission from author.

nattydread · 07-16-07, 01:05 AM

I tried this mod today and found myself thoroughly impressed and over-joyed as I sunk a med sized 4k ton merchant.

2 fish hit, one dead center, the other just ahead of the bridge. The ship slowed a bit from the hits, then turned away and poured on the coals in an attempt to evade. I surfaced and put a few not so well place deck gun rounds in her. Shortly afterward two life boats appeared as the ship lost its head way and began to list noticibly. I used a few more better placed eck gun rounds to spread the love around and slowly watched her tak eon more and water. The sinking took about 30 to happen after the went dead in the water. A small fire on the stern might have helped her along. Anyay, once she started to reach the brink of no return, you could see here ability to float rapidly deminish in the last few minutes.

It finally made sining feel a bit more realistic...great job!

iratecabbie · 07-16-07, 05:39 AM

Thankyou for taking the time and effort required ot mkae this mod, I have installed it to my 1.3 and will be testing it today and will post back my own feedback...

Vampire18 · 07-16-07, 09:48 AM

Awesome

BlackSpot · 07-16-07, 10:44 AM

I would also like to congratulate you on this mod! Thanks.
One question. I noticed when you hole the ship either on the stern or the bow, the ship sinks end up. Very nice. However, the last bit of the hull to sink below the depths "bobs" in the water. ie. The hull rises out of the water slightly then sinks a little further, then rises again etc. Not a critism in any way, but does this happen in real life? Is it due to an air pocket in the last bit of the hull? Cheers.

WernerSobe · 07-16-07, 12:20 PM

yes it acts like a half filled bottle.

Once a ship suffers a torpedo hit the crew will seal the sheets to avoid the water being spread in entire ship. However when it has taken to much water the sheets will break sooner or later so more and more compartments will be filled. That looks like a kork.

nomad_delta · 07-16-07, 12:52 PM

I was playing around w/ this briefly just before patch 1.3 came out. I've been running without it for the first patrol of my new campagin post-1.3 and I'm already missing it. The ships in stock just sink way too fast. I'll be loading the new version back up as soon as I get back to port.

Great work, Werner!

nomad_delta

Rockin Robbins · 07-16-07, 01:08 PM

Werner, you've taken marketing a mod to a whole new level with your initial post there. That is the best-worded, most attractively laid-out announcement we've had here. It reaches the level of effective advertising! Since English is your second language, I have to give you a special award for capturing not just the texture and taste of the steak, but also its sizzle and aroma. I used your mod for 1.2 and almost PM'd you about use with 1.3, and you're ahead of us all. I really look forward to downloading and using your new mod. Great work!

07-13-07, 12:43 PM	#136
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Was just going to load up my last save (1,3) here....should I wait for a fix or? Keep up the good work WernerSobe! __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-13-07, 12:45 PM	#137
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Cox, it is more likely with any mod that adds cargos to ships. This mod doesn't change the chance beyond the stock game any, it's a problem with the stock game. It is entirely reproducible, however. I need a "super torpedo" mod to test differently... Last edited by tater; 07-13-07 at 01:05 PM.

07-13-07, 12:47 PM	#138
CaptainCox Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: A Swede in Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,897 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Cheers tater! try the Torpedo Cheat maybe http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110505 __________________ DOWNLOAD MY MODS HERE

07-16-07, 05:39 AM	#145
iratecabbie Nub Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: uk Posts: 3 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Thanks! Thankyou for taking the time and effort required ot mkae this mod, I have installed it to my 1.3 and will be testing it today and will post back my own feedback...

07-16-07, 10:44 AM	#147
BlackSpot Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Shropshire UK Posts: 266 Downloads: 21 Uploads: 0	I would also like to congratulate you on this mod! Thanks. One question. I noticed when you hole the ship either on the stern or the bow, the ship sinks end up. Very nice. However, the last bit of the hull to sink below the depths "bobs" in the water. ie. The hull rises out of the water slightly then sinks a little further, then rises again etc. Not a critism in any way, but does this happen in real life? Is it due to an air pocket in the last bit of the hull? Cheers. __________________ Do nothing which is of no use.

07-13-07, 02:54 PM	#139
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	well i didnt know. I dont think we can do anything there. It must be a bug with the ship model itself not with the damage system. And you cannot disable that they break when they are hit criticaly. Well one thing you can try... Set the critical chance for the keel in "NEW SMALL MERCHANTS" section to 0.0 and see what happens.

07-13-07, 03:09 PM	#140
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I tried setting the one on top =No I tried setting the chance =0.0 neither worked, still a CTD. tater

07-13-07, 03:27 PM	#141
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	i supposed that. Well there is nothing we can do its a bug with the ship model.

07-15-07, 12:14 PM	#143
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	ok thanks ill get it into next version if i get permission from author.

07-16-07, 01:05 AM	#144
nattydread Captain Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 498 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I tried this mod today and found myself thoroughly impressed and over-joyed as I sunk a med sized 4k ton merchant. 2 fish hit, one dead center, the other just ahead of the bridge. The ship slowed a bit from the hits, then turned away and poured on the coals in an attempt to evade. I surfaced and put a few not so well place deck gun rounds in her. Shortly afterward two life boats appeared as the ship lost its head way and began to list noticibly. I used a few more better placed eck gun rounds to spread the love around and slowly watched her tak eon more and water. The sinking took about 30 to happen after the went dead in the water. A small fire on the stern might have helped her along. Anyay, once she started to reach the brink of no return, you could see here ability to float rapidly deminish in the last few minutes. It finally made sining feel a bit more realistic...great job!

07-16-07, 09:48 AM	#146
Vampire18 Nub Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Awesome

07-16-07, 12:20 PM	#148
WernerSobe Commodore Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 625 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	yes it acts like a half filled bottle. Once a ship suffers a torpedo hit the crew will seal the sheets to avoid the water being spread in entire ship. However when it has taken to much water the sheets will break sooner or later so more and more compartments will be filled. That looks like a kork.

07-16-07, 12:52 PM	#149
nomad_delta Planesman Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 185 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I was playing around w/ this briefly just before patch 1.3 came out. I've been running without it for the first patrol of my new campagin post-1.3 and I'm already missing it. The ships in stock just sink way too fast. I'll be loading the new version back up as soon as I get back to port. Great work, Werner! nomad_delta

07-16-07, 01:08 PM	#150
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Wow! Werner, you've taken marketing a mod to a whole new level with your initial post there. That is the best-worded, most attractively laid-out announcement we've had here. It reaches the level of effective advertising! Since English is your second language, I have to give you a special award for capturing not just the texture and taste of the steak, but also its sizzle and aroma. I used your mod for 1.2 and almost PM'd you about use with 1.3, and you're ahead of us all. I really look forward to downloading and using your new mod. Great work! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS