Kursk Sumarine "accident", or better typically russian negligence

Catfish · 10-07-23, 04:41 PM

Does not help the crew, or their relatives.

Popov knows that he will be held resonsible as the fleet commander. So, "... as in russian tradition of the russian military, his immediate reaction on this day is to do nothing."

Accidents happen, but in Rusia there is complete ignorance or denial of responsibility to the soldiers involved due to russian corruption and cleptocracy.
"Wait for rescue by the russian government". What Putin (=the russian government) did? Nothing.

Hats off to the crew and russian soldiers. Death to their government.

Jimbuna · 10-08-23, 05:27 AM

Great viewing Kai

Moonlight · 10-08-23, 10:21 AM

That was some sad viewing Catfish.

That maintenance issue on the Kursk should never have been allowed to happen and, that makes me wonder, what if some of these nuclear missiles they've got are also suffering with the same maintenance issues as well?. What if they fire some of them off and they start exploding inside their silos?, they're gonna have a nightmare on their hands and, so are we.

Dargo · 10-08-23, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

That was some sad viewing Catfish.

That maintenance issue on the Kursk should never have been allowed to happen and, that makes me wonder, what if some of these nuclear missiles they've got are also suffering with the same maintenance issues as well?. What if they fire some of them off and they start exploding inside their silos?, they're gonna have a nightmare on their hands and, so are we.

Russian standard of safety is totally lower than ours, so am afraid for all equipment is not safe or maintained.

Kapitan · 11-14-23, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

That was some sad viewing Catfish.

That maintenance issue on the Kursk should never have been allowed to happen and, that makes me wonder, what if some of these nuclear missiles they've got are also suffering with the same maintenance issues as well?. What if they fire some of them off and they start exploding inside their silos?, they're gonna have a nightmare on their hands and, so are we.

They have had several incidents of this happening namely K219 in 1986, TK17 in 1991 and possible K129 in 1969 as well as other such incidents.

As for Kursk I may have watched this a while back will have to watch again to refresh and give pointers but I did spend a lot of time researching with this particular boat.

ChristopherTarana · 11-21-23, 05:24 PM

Looking over Russia's previous record, To me it looks like Bad Maintence!

Christopher Tarana

Kapitan · 11-24-23, 08:05 AM

The documentary itself is pretty accurate the Ustinov report made for very blunt and chilling reading at the time.

What is known is the 65-76A was responsible, this type of torpedo had been discarded by the west back in the 1960's and has been known to sink submarines.

To say they had poor maintenance would be an understatement I think, a decade of complete under funding if any at all, plus the rife pilfering was just a disaster waiting to happen.

10-07-23, 04:41 PM	#1
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Kursk Sumarine "accident", or better typically russian negligence Does not help the crew, or their relatives. Popov knows that he will be held resonsible as the fleet commander. So, "... as in russian tradition of the russian military, his immediate reaction on this day is to do nothing." Accidents happen, but in Rusia there is complete ignorance or denial of responsibility to the soldiers involved due to russian corruption and cleptocracy. "Wait for rescue by the russian government". What Putin (=the russian government) did? Nothing. Hats off to the crew and russian soldiers. Death to their government. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 10-07-23 at 04:59 PM.*

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,217 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Great viewing Kai __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

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Moonlight Admiral Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,137 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	That was some sad viewing Catfish. That maintenance issue on the Kursk should never have been allowed to happen and, that makes me wonder, what if some of these nuclear missiles they've got are also suffering with the same maintenance issues as well?. What if they fire some of them off and they start exploding inside their silos?, they're gonna have a nightmare on their hands and, so are we. __________________

11-21-23, 05:24 PM	#6
ChristopherTarana 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 277 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 0	Bad Maintence Looking over Russia's previous record, To me it looks like Bad Maintence! Christopher Tarana

11-24-23, 08:05 AM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,090 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 7	The documentary itself is pretty accurate the Ustinov report made for very blunt and chilling reading at the time. What is known is the 65-76A was responsible, this type of torpedo had been discarded by the west back in the 1960's and has been known to sink submarines. To say they had poor maintenance would be an understatement I think, a decade of complete under funding if any at all, plus the rife pilfering was just a disaster waiting to happen. __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/