Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2 - Page 5

mapuc · 07-24-23, 12:44 PM

< Me neither
When will we see the first brigade of Chinese volunteers fighting among the Russian in Ukraine ?

Markus

Jeff-Groves · 07-24-23, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Well, so much for Chinas supposed neutrality.

It is being reported that Russia imported drones from China worth more than 100 million dollars and has ordered ordered 100,000 bulletproof vests and 100,000 helmets.

I'm not in the least surprised.

I hope all that stuff is of the usual Chinese quality.

Jimbuna · 07-24-23, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

< Me neither
When will we see the first brigade of Chinese volunteers fighting among the Russian in Ukraine ?

Markus

Heaven only knows but they already have Ghurkha's fighting within their ranks.

Jeff-Groves · 07-24-23, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Heaven only knows but they already have Ghurkha's fighting within their ranks.

It's said some are fighting on both sides.

Jimbuna · 07-24-23, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

It's said some are fighting on both sides.

It might well be the case but I honestly don't know for sure.

Aktungbby · 07-24-23, 01:16 PM

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he Belarusian leader also presented Putin with what he claimed to be a map of Poland's plan to attack Belarus.

IE: the old 'false flag" scheme employed by Hitler to rationalize his invasion of Poland; uncovered by US intelligence prior to Putin's invasion of Ukraine: and now re-employed by Putin's toadying sycophant Lukashenko is now trying it again on Poland??!! The lack of original thinking is remarkable...

Skybird · 07-24-23, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Shouldn't they not get demining equipment from USA ?

Maybe they should use one of the old tactics. Use explosive cables-Where they fire from some gun-like equipment and they fly 25 to 50 meters ahead and the operator press a button and the entire cable explode and any mines under or very close to this cable will explode.

Markus

They got that from US, GER, UK.But the Russians became experts in taking them out. These tsnks must lead any advance and thus Russia found it easy to identify them and taking them out via gunship, artillery or drone.
Some western analysts think its possible that the better part of these vehicles already were taken out.

Catfish · 07-24-23, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

It's said some are fighting on both sides.

Yes, the situation in Nepal is that most young men do not find jobs, so they are looking for other opportunities. Does not matter which side as long as they are being paid

Russian ammunition depot hit during Ukrainian drone attack in Crimea

"Occupiers report drone hit at ammunition depot in Crimea
"The occupation authorities of Crimea reported hitting an ammunition depot in Dzhankoy district on Monday.

According to the Russian mass media, the movement of trains and cars along the Dzhankoy – Simferopol highway has been stopped, the population of villages within a radius of 5 kilometers from the ammunition depot is being evacuated."

https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/924719.html

Jimbuna · 07-24-23, 01:37 PM

Skybird · 07-24-23, 01:51 PM

Focus writes:
The Ukrainian counteroffensive has been underway for seven weeks, with no major successes so far. The Bundeswehr is now sharply critical of Ukraine's conduct of the war. This emerges from a paper that is said to be available to the "Bild" newspaper.

According to the paper, the Ukrainian army is not properly applying war techniques learned in the West. "The own troop units are partly divided into such small parts that each troop unit does something, but a common battle management is not recognizable," the paper is said to say. As a result, Ukrainian troops would squander the advantage that Western training and superior weaponry should give them.
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A major problem, it says, is "Ukrainian operational doctrine": the more combat-experienced a Ukrainian soldier is and the higher he rises in the army, the less he internalizes Western training principles. The Bundeswehr, he said, has found that soldiers with less combat experience achieved greater success through Western training "in many cases" than more experienced soldiers.

Once the young soldiers returned to Ukraine, however, they were subordinated to officers who did not act according to Western procedures. The command personnel showed "in some cases significant deficiencies in leading and applying command processes," the newspaper quoted from the paper.

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And this guy argues we should start shooting down Russian drones.

https://m-focus-de.translate.goog/po..._x_tr_pto=wapp

Jeff-Groves · 07-24-23, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Yes, the situation in Nepal is that most young men do not find jobs, so they are looking for other opportunities. Does not matter which side as long as they are being paid

Getting so You can't trust no one now days!

Catfish · 07-24-23, 03:20 PM

The russian crap show at its finest

mapuc · 07-24-23, 03:25 PM

^ Who thought that Russia didn't have stand-up comedians

Markus

Catfish · 07-24-23, 04:09 PM

China Is ‘Officially’ Sending Drones To Russia

Getting Help ‘Unofficially’ From Kazakhstan, Pakistan & Belarus

"Since Russia invaded Ukraine, China has supplied more than $12 million worth of drones to Moscow, demonstrating the two nations’ deepening cooperation despite threats from the US to take action against Chinese firms, reported The New York Times.

The report noted that the shipments included DJI products—a well-known drone manufacturer worldwide—and products from various smaller businesses—often flowed through small-time middlemen and exporters."

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/china-...20York%20Times.

mapuc · 07-24-23, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

China Is ‘Officially’ Sending Drones To Russia

Getting Help ‘Unofficially’ From Kazakhstan, Pakistan & Belarus

"Since Russia invaded Ukraine, China has supplied more than $12 million worth of drones to Moscow, demonstrating the two nations’ deepening cooperation despite threats from the US to take action against Chinese firms, reported The New York Times.

The report noted that the shipments included DJI products—a well-known drone manufacturer worldwide—and products from various smaller businesses—often flowed through small-time middlemen and exporters."

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/china-...20York%20Times.

They forgot Iran-Iran is beside Belarus, the country who has and are helping Russia most. They doesn't send drones they even send instructors.
How many million dollars Iran has send of drones I can't remember.

Markus

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07-24-23, 01:51 PM	#70
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,494 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Focus writes: The Ukrainian counteroffensive has been underway for seven weeks, with no major successes so far. The Bundeswehr is now sharply critical of Ukraine's conduct of the war. This emerges from a paper that is said to be available to the "Bild" newspaper. According to the paper, the Ukrainian army is not properly applying war techniques learned in the West. "The own troop units are partly divided into such small parts that each troop unit does something, but a common battle management is not recognizable," the paper is said to say. As a result, Ukrainian troops would squander the advantage that Western training and superior weaponry should give them. Advertisement A major problem, it says, is "Ukrainian operational doctrine": the more combat-experienced a Ukrainian soldier is and the higher he rises in the army, the less he internalizes Western training principles. The Bundeswehr, he said, has found that soldiers with less combat experience achieved greater success through Western training "in many cases" than more experienced soldiers. Once the young soldiers returned to Ukraine, however, they were subordinated to officers who did not act according to Western procedures. The command personnel showed "in some cases significant deficiencies in leading and applying command processes," the newspaper quoted from the paper. #################################### And this guy argues we should start shooting down Russian drones. https://m-focus-de.translate.goog/po..._x_tr_pto=wapp __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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07-24-23, 04:09 PM	#74
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	China Is ‘Officially’ Sending Drones To Russia Getting Help ‘Unofficially’ From Kazakhstan, Pakistan & Belarus "Since Russia invaded Ukraine, China has supplied more than $12 million worth of drones to Moscow, demonstrating the two nations’ deepening cooperation despite threats from the US to take action against Chinese firms, reported The New York Times. The report noted that the shipments included DJI products—a well-known drone manufacturer worldwide—and products from various smaller businesses—often flowed through small-time middlemen and exporters." https://www.eurasiantimes.com/china-...20York%20Times. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.