Neutral Shipping - Page 2

Sailor Steve · 03-05-14, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Caveat: Do not sink Axis vessels.

Actually more than one Axis ship was sunk by u-boats. In every case the u-boat commander was exonerated. The friendly ship was either in an area where it wasn't supposed to be, or was disguised as an Allied ship to fool the enemy.

I have my 'Neutral' set to '0' and my 'Axis' set to '-1'. I don't get credit for sinking neutrals, but I don't get in trouble for it either, and I only lose a little if I accidentally sink a friendly ship.

BigWalleye · 03-05-14, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GJO

I would suggest that the numbers justify the term 'frequently' . . .

Absolutely. I am in no way disputing that. I was hoping for a more quantitative indication. It would be nice to know percentage of total ships or total tonnage sunk. I'd like a way to judge my own performance. If I sink one neutral every ten ships, am I being too cautious? Too aggressive? SH3 doesn't provide any feedback from BdU, such as a real sub commander would receive. I can booger the renown numbers to do whatever suits me, but that doesn't tell me how much (or how little) flak I would have gotten from The Boss for my performance. I imagine the data are all out there, but I haven't found a site that neatly consolidates them. And I'd rather not do the tabulations myself. (

Just laziness, but I'd rather be on patrol.) Anybody have a reference?

Karnivor · 01-23-15, 04:40 AM

Hi all! November 39, i was hit a few british ships but after save (in menu before quit) i saw sunk ships in neutral row. Why? Im playing with GWX 3 mod.

Jimbuna · 01-23-15, 11:11 AM

There are neutrals scripted into the early convoys.

Karnivor · 01-23-15, 12:39 PM

well... but they was single targets

ReallyDedPoet · 01-23-15, 12:42 PM

Welcome to SUBSIM Karnivor

Karnivor · 01-23-15, 12:44 PM

thank you for your kindness

Tomatow · 02-04-15, 11:16 PM

You lose renown unless you've modified the game files

Plumber1 · 02-05-15, 05:18 AM

Hi Karnivor, welcome to SUBSIM.

Were they definitely flying the British flag or something like it? British flagged ships after the 3rd Sep `39 shouldn't be recorded as a neutral. Can't remember if ALL the British dependancies and commonwealth countries were enemy at this stage though.

Aktungbby · 02-05-15, 05:30 AM

Karnivor & Tomatow

Jimbuna · 02-05-15, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnivor

thank you for your kindness

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomatow

You lose renown unless you've modified the game files

Welcome Aboard

Darthlucky · 02-17-15, 10:15 AM

I spotted an unescorted Small Depot ship in the Pentland Firth in October of '39, it was dark and not moving. Not believing my luck, I made a submerged approach and fired a single torpedo, it hit and began going down. I go take a look at it with the external cam and....IT'S GOT A DUTCH FLAG! I made my IWO sleep on the deck plates for a day.

Synthfg · 02-18-15, 06:54 AM

Could be worse,
Late Sept 39 am cruising west across the north sea, just north of Holland and I encounter a lone merchant coming the other way
its dark so I creep up to check the flag, the 3 stripes are vertical so it's not dutch so I let frenchie have it

Bloody Belgians

Darthlucky · 02-18-15, 05:47 PM

The worst is off Gibraltar, those Spanish flagged Large Passenger/Cargo ships look SOOOOO tempting.

01-23-15, 04:40 AM	#18
Karnivor Nub Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	British ships are neutral Hi all! November 39, i was hit a few british ships but after save (in menu before quit) i saw sunk ships in neutral row. Why? Im playing with GWX 3 mod.

01-23-15, 11:11 AM	#19
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	There are neutrals scripted into the early convoys. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

01-23-15, 12:42 PM	#21
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The one and only East Coast Posts: 10,775 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Welcome to SUBSIM Karnivor __________________ Back in the Day

02-05-15, 05:30 AM	#25
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,888 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard Karnivor & Tomatow __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

01-23-15, 12:39 PM	#20
Karnivor Nub Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	well... but they was single targets

01-23-15, 12:44 PM	#22
Karnivor Nub Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	thank you for your kindness

02-04-15, 11:16 PM	#23
Tomatow Bilge Rat Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	You lose renown unless you've modified the game files

02-05-15, 05:18 AM	#24
Plumber1 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Coningsby Posts: 31 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hi Karnivor, welcome to SUBSIM. Were they definitely flying the British flag or something like it? British flagged ships after the 3rd Sep `39 shouldn't be recorded as a neutral. Can't remember if ALL the British dependancies and commonwealth countries were enemy at this stage though.

02-17-15, 10:15 AM	#27
Darthlucky Medic Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 159 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I spotted an unescorted Small Depot ship in the Pentland Firth in October of '39, it was dark and not moving. Not believing my luck, I made a submerged approach and fired a single torpedo, it hit and began going down. I go take a look at it with the external cam and....IT'S GOT A DUTCH FLAG! I made my IWO sleep on the deck plates for a day.

02-18-15, 06:54 AM	#28
Synthfg Sparky Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 154 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Could be worse, Late Sept 39 am cruising west across the north sea, just north of Holland and I encounter a lone merchant coming the other way its dark so I creep up to check the flag, the 3 stripes are vertical so it's not dutch so I let frenchie have it Bloody Belgians

02-18-15, 05:47 PM	#29
Darthlucky Medic Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 159 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	The worst is off Gibraltar, those Spanish flagged Large Passenger/Cargo ships look SOOOOO tempting.