Neutral Shipping

RamsHeadFC · 03-02-14, 12:57 AM

Are there any disadvantages to sinking neutral ships? I've always given them a free pass, not knowing if sinking them would have bad consequences, such as drawing other nations into the war against the Reich, or a chewing out when I returned to port.

Admiral Halsey · 03-02-14, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RamsHeadFC

Are there any disadvantages to sinking neutral ships? I've always given them a free pass, not knowing if sinking them would have bad consequences, such as drawing other nations into the war against the Reich, or a chewing out when I returned to port.

Sinking them causes you to lose renown if I remember right.

BossMark · 03-02-14, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Sinking them causes you to lose renown if I remember right.

Yes you lose renown which is needed to buy upgrades.

Aras · 03-02-14, 04:23 AM

If you sink a neutral ship, you will lose renown. If you sink multiple neutral ships, there is a possibility that Kriegsmarine may hunt you down when you return to the port

Except that you cannot change the history of war. Sinking neutral ships won't cause some nations to declare war or sinking all the British or US tankers won't cause Great Britain to starve crude oil and lose the war.

If you are running GWX (I'm not sure if this option is also available for the stock game), you can press F1 and check which nations are at war with Germany from "Enemies of Germany"

Jimbuna · 03-02-14, 06:38 AM

Sinking a neutral ships means the country of origin will consider you an enemy for the following 24 hours of game time.

Aviv · 03-03-14, 06:51 PM

One problem I've been facing is how to identify the neutral ships. When they're lit up it's fine but they're not always. I'm worried about sinking one and losing renown. Is there something I can look for to have an idea about the nationality of a boat from a distance? Certain ships or areas that are mostly neutral? A way I've been "cheating" is to see if the CE is "exited" once the ship is spotted or if he just stands there normally. Which I find a bit dishonest. What do you guys do?

Tomatow · 02-04-15, 11:16 PM

You lose renown unless you've modified the game files

Plumber1 · 02-05-15, 05:18 AM

Hi Karnivor, welcome to SUBSIM.

Were they definitely flying the British flag or something like it? British flagged ships after the 3rd Sep `39 shouldn't be recorded as a neutral. Can't remember if ALL the British dependancies and commonwealth countries were enemy at this stage though.

Aktungbby · 02-05-15, 05:30 AM

Karnivor & Tomatow

Jimbuna · 02-05-15, 12:45 PM

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thank you for your kindness

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You lose renown unless you've modified the game files

Welcome Aboard

Darthlucky · 02-17-15, 10:15 AM

I spotted an unescorted Small Depot ship in the Pentland Firth in October of '39, it was dark and not moving. Not believing my luck, I made a submerged approach and fired a single torpedo, it hit and began going down. I go take a look at it with the external cam and....IT'S GOT A DUTCH FLAG! I made my IWO sleep on the deck plates for a day.

03-02-14, 12:57 AM	#1
RamsHeadFC Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Neutral Shipping Are there any disadvantages to sinking neutral ships? I've always given them a free pass, not knowing if sinking them would have bad consequences, such as drawing other nations into the war against the Reich, or a chewing out when I returned to port.

03-02-14, 04:23 AM	#4
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	If you sink a neutral ship, you will lose renown. If you sink multiple neutral ships, there is a possibility that Kriegsmarine may hunt you down when you return to the port Except that you cannot change the history of war. Sinking neutral ships won't cause some nations to declare war or sinking all the British or US tankers won't cause Great Britain to starve crude oil and lose the war. If you are running GWX (I'm not sure if this option is also available for the stock game), you can press F1 and check which nations are at war with Germany from "Enemies of Germany" __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

03-02-14, 06:38 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,344 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Sinking a neutral ships means the country of origin will consider you an enemy for the following 24 hours of game time. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

03-03-14, 06:51 PM	#6
Aviv Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Israel Posts: 132 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	One problem I've been facing is how to identify the neutral ships. When they're lit up it's fine but they're not always. I'm worried about sinking one and losing renown. Is there something I can look for to have an idea about the nationality of a boat from a distance? Certain ships or areas that are mostly neutral? A way I've been "cheating" is to see if the CE is "exited" once the ship is spotted or if he just stands there normally. Which I find a bit dishonest. What do you guys do? __________________ "It’s Friday, Friday gotta get down on Friday, everybody’s looking forward to the weekend"

02-05-15, 05:30 AM	#9
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,911 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard Karnivor & Tomatow __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

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Tomatow Bilge Rat Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 1 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	You lose renown unless you've modified the game files

02-05-15, 05:18 AM	#8
Plumber1 Seaman Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Coningsby Posts: 31 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hi Karnivor, welcome to SUBSIM. Were they definitely flying the British flag or something like it? British flagged ships after the 3rd Sep `39 shouldn't be recorded as a neutral. Can't remember if ALL the British dependancies and commonwealth countries were enemy at this stage though.

02-17-15, 10:15 AM	#11
Darthlucky Medic Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 159 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I spotted an unescorted Small Depot ship in the Pentland Firth in October of '39, it was dark and not moving. Not believing my luck, I made a submerged approach and fired a single torpedo, it hit and began going down. I go take a look at it with the external cam and....IT'S GOT A DUTCH FLAG! I made my IWO sleep on the deck plates for a day.