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Old 06-19-17, 04:06 AM   #3061
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US downs Syrian jet near Raqqa. The jet was bombing US allies fighting against Deash, and decided that was not going to happen anymore. A US F18 took the SU-22 out of the sky.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...qah/ar-BBCRhpv
What a mess that place is, thinking about what idiots our media are I sure hope we don't end up prodded like cattle into WW3.
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Old 06-19-17, 04:13 AM   #3062
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What a mess that place is, thinking about what idiots our media are I sure hope we don't end up prodded like cattle into WW3.
One could argue that Muhammad's followers are at war with all non-Muslim mankind since one and a half millenia already. Temporary seize-fires due to own insufficient power should not be mistaken with peace. Muhammad himself demanded that seize fires should only last as long as was needed to recover the needed strength, and that there shall be no latsing periods of peace ever.

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Old 06-19-17, 04:35 AM   #3063
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One could argue that Muhammad's followers are at war with all non-Muslim mankind since one and a half millenia already. Temporary seize-fires due to own insufficient power should not be mistaken with peace. Muhammad himself demanded that seize fires should only last as long as was needed to recover the needed strength, and that there shall be no latsing periods of peace ever.

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I meant more likely we end up prodded into a war with Russia (who our media hate ever since they gave up that communism thing). Islam will be left to reap the reward.
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The attack in London today seems to be a revenge attack. Honestly said, I almost waited for such a thing to happen. Maybe it is surprising that it did not happen earlier already.
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Old 06-19-17, 04:40 AM   #3065
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I meant more likely we end up prodded into a war with Russia .
Not intentionally. I assume the US military would launch a coup against Trump if he goes that far. And Putin calculates way too cooly as if he could trigger WWIII over emotional arousals.
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Old 06-19-17, 04:52 AM   #3066
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Disgusting... some idiot's idea of revenge.
Agreed but sadly, predictable and inevitable.
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Old 06-19-17, 04:55 AM   #3067
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Not intentionally. I assume the US military would launch a coup against Trump if he goes that far. And Putin calculates way too cooly as if he could trigger WWIII over emotional arousals.
Our military cast 3 votes for Trump for every vote cast for Hillary.
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Old 06-19-17, 05:38 AM   #3068
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Great, now "we" start to do the same type of crap. Two wrongs don't make a right.
This kind of action is just as despicable as all the other terror attacks.
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The Muslim Council of Britain has called for extra security around mosques.

The council's secretary general, Harun Khan, said he expected authorities to step up security "as a matter of urgency", adding many would feel "terrorised" following the incident outside the Muslim Welfare House in Seven Sisters Road.
Excuse my French you daft pillock but this is an over reaction to a lone terrorist attack and I do stress the word "Lone". I don't recall any extra security around churches and cathedrals being called for in the past so why should they do this for mosques, get a bleeding grip man because what's needed now is calm heads and not some over excitable Muslim Council secretary general.

Also on the matter of "feeling terrorised" Mr Harun Khan, how do you think the British people feel when members of your muslim communities go around murdering innocent civilians, the pot calling the kettle black springs to mind me thinks.
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Old 06-19-17, 06:34 AM   #3070
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Great, now "we" start to do the same type of crap. Two wrongs don't make a right.
This kind of action is just as despicable as all the other terror attacks.
Yes, especially when it is as indiscriminate as the muslim terror attacks. These revenge attacks likely affect people who are not radicals, merely innocent bystanders.
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Yes, especially when it is as indiscriminate as the muslim terror attacks. These revenge attacks likely affect people who are not radicals, merely innocent bystanders.
This apparent revenge attacker maybe was affected by Muslim attacks in the first as well. A community that hides that over 220 demands and calls for violence to be used in defence as well as offence and supression against infidels are hidden in the Quran, and always weasels about terror done in reference to these Quranic demands, does not win itself many new friends...
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What a mess that place is, thinking about what idiots our media are I sure hope we don't end up prodded like cattle into WW3.
This article from the Swedish news paper aftonbladet.se was available about 2 pm.

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Russia: We will see the US-backed air as enemy targets
The conflict between Russia and the United States in the war in Syria is stepping up.
After the United States shot down a Syrian bomber yesterday interrupts Russia information cooperation - and will now see the US-backed warplanes as enemy targets.
"It's an aggression," says a senior Russian diplomat.


Russian Defense Ministry said that the United States never alerted when yesterday shot down a Syrian fighter near Tabqa in Syria.
After yesterday's event, Russia will see all US-based fighter aircraft west of the Euphrates River as targets, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, according to the news agency AP

It also ends the cooperation between the two superpowers had gone to coordinate the fighting against terrorist sect IS.
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There was a lot more to read in this article. I only toke the top of it.
Maybe there will be an English version of this Press meeting with the Russian Minister of Defense

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Old 06-19-17, 11:34 AM   #3073
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Was the shooting down a presidential order, or did it happen "accidentally"?

I mean attacking the western anti-IS coalition would probably not go without retaliation. My take is that especially Syriah thinks it will profit from a US-Russian conflict, which is why Assad is trying to provoke all the time. Just like Erdoghan i might say.
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Will Russia give air support to Syrian bomberplane ?

Will we see Russian fighter Jet protecting Syrian fighter plane, when they are making bombing rounds ?(sorry couldn't suddenly not remember who the sentence was written)

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Old 06-19-17, 12:36 PM   #3075
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Great, now "we" start to do the same type of crap. Two wrongs don't make a right.
This kind of action is just as despicable as all the other terror attacks.
Agreed
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