The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar - Page 206

06-19-17, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Great, now "we" start to do the same type of crap. Two wrongs don't make a right.

This kind of action is just as despicable as all the other terror attacks.

Mh, I don't think that really applies here.

"We" do not follow some radical ideology that tells us to kill anyone.
"They" do, however.

Edit: My point is, the guy didn't act in the name of some ideology, he's a different type of idiot and surely does not belong to "us".

Jimbuna · 06-19-17, 01:33 PM

The man arrested on suspicion of carrying out a terror attack near a north London mosque is 47 year old Darren Osborne from Cardiff, the BBC understands.

Jimbuna · 06-19-17, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Will Russia give air support to Syrian bomberplane ?

Will we see Russian fighter Jet protecting Syrian fighter plane, when they are making bombing rounds ?(sorry couldn't suddenly not remember who the sentence was written)

Markus

Russia stopped short of openly saying it would shoot down coalition aircraft.

Quote:

"Any aircraft, including planes and drones belonging to the international coalition operating west of the River Euphrates, will be tracked by Russian anti-aircraft forces in the sky and on the ground and treated as targets,"

ikalugin · 06-19-17, 04:12 PM

I think the current ROE are to prosecute targets that present a threat to Russian forces in theatre. This implies that we track stuff in our areas of operations. SAAF is another matter, though it appears that we may run some escort missions for them with the limited assets that we have in the area.

mapuc · 06-19-17, 04:29 PM

The bottom line is..I'm trying to understand what this mean military and politically

I do understand Russia hasn't declared war on USA and its allied. Is it indirectly ?

´cause if USA and its allied has to send their fighter jets to west of the River Euphrates, , they will send their fighter jet to that area

Markus

ikalugin · 06-19-17, 05:50 PM

In a way it is a 3+ way proxy war in the region. We have our own allies (SAA, Iranians, etc), whom we support but not unconditionally. As long as we don't get hit directly, ultimately, we don't really care. On the other hand attacks on the SAA make us look bad so we have to do something.

Agiel7 · 06-19-17, 09:18 PM

It would seem to me that a hot air war over Syria would be a non-starter for the Russians if only because of geography. In any case this incident seems far less serious than the Sharyat Tomahawk strike given that that was a mission personally authorised by Trump that resulted in far greater loss in life and materiel, so one hopes people can pull back from the brink just as easily.

Skybird · 06-20-17, 05:01 AM

Australia has suspended its flights over Syria. If I were a Russian general, I would grin now: "Gotcha!"

MaDef · 06-20-17, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Australia has suspended its flights over Syria. If I were a Russian general, I would grin now: "Gotcha!"

Don't know how much of a gotcha that is, Australia only has 8 planes that are operating mostly in Iraq.

Skybird · 06-20-17, 09:52 AM

^ Its about the signal, the political message.

Skybird · 06-20-17, 02:33 PM

And now the US has shot down a drone over Syria.The news reports are conflicting. Some make it appear as an Iranian controlled drone operating over Syria, others describe it as an Iran-made drone operated by Syria. So, Iran- or Syria-owned it is, Iran-made in both cases it is. The drone should have shown hostile behaviour towards IS allies on the ground.

Skybird · 06-20-17, 02:38 PM

Apparent terror attack at Grand Central Staton in Brussels. Police should have shot down a man with an explosive belt. Another explosion was to be heared, according to Belgian media.

ikalugin · 06-21-17, 05:26 AM

http://www.interfax.ru/world/567501
In the other news - it appears that NATO combat aircraft were trying to inrercept the MoD's aircraft over the neutral waters.

August · 06-21-17, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikalugin

http://www.interfax.ru/world/567501
In the other news - it appears that NATO combat aircraft were trying to inrercept the MoD's aircraft over the neutral waters.

Oh yeah because those Air Force RC-135's are so acrobatic that they could intercept a Russian fighter jet. Totally believable!

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/politi...aft/index.html

ikalugin · 06-21-17, 07:22 AM

MoD's as in the aircraft carrying minister for defense (hence why it had escorting fighters), you can see the event as filmed by Zvezda crew on the aircraft:

The escorting Flanker demonstates weapons at 000020 or so

06-19-17, 01:33 PM	#3077
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,284 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	The man arrested on suspicion of carrying out a terror attack near a north London mosque is 47 year old Darren Osborne from Cardiff, the BBC understands. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-19-17, 04:12 PM	#3079
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I think the current ROE are to prosecute targets that present a threat to Russian forces in theatre. This implies that we track stuff in our areas of operations. SAAF is another matter, though it appears that we may run some escort missions for them with the limited assets that we have in the area. __________________ Grumpy as always.

06-19-17, 05:50 PM	#3081
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	In a way it is a 3+ way proxy war in the region. We have our own allies (SAA, Iranians, etc), whom we support but not unconditionally. As long as we don't get hit directly, ultimately, we don't really care. On the other hand attacks on the SAA make us look bad so we have to do something. __________________ Grumpy as always.

06-20-17, 05:01 AM	#3083
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,516 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Australia has suspended its flights over Syria. If I were a Russian general, I would grin now: "Gotcha!" __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-20-17, 09:52 AM	#3085
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,516 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	^ Its about the signal, the political message. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-19-17, 04:29 PM	#3080
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,908 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	The bottom line is..I'm trying to understand what this mean military and politically I do understand Russia hasn't declared war on USA and its allied. Is it indirectly ? ´cause if USA and its allied has to send their fighter jets to west of the River Euphrates, , they will send their fighter jet to that area Markus

06-19-17, 09:18 PM	#3082
Agiel7 Gunner Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 97 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	It would seem to me that a hot air war over Syria would be a non-starter for the Russians if only because of geography. In any case this incident seems far less serious than the Sharyat Tomahawk strike given that that was a mission personally authorised by Trump that resulted in far greater loss in life and materiel, so one hopes people can pull back from the brink just as easily.

06-20-17, 02:33 PM	#3086
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,516 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	And now the US has shot down a drone over Syria.The news reports are conflicting. Some make it appear as an Iranian controlled drone operating over Syria, others describe it as an Iran-made drone operated by Syria. So, Iran- or Syria-owned it is, Iran-made in both cases it is. The drone should have shown hostile behaviour towards IS allies on the ground. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-20-17, 02:38 PM	#3087
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,516 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Apparent terror attack at Grand Central Staton in Brussels. Police should have shot down a man with an explosive belt. Another explosion was to be heared, according to Belgian media. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

06-21-17, 05:26 AM	#3088
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	http://www.interfax.ru/world/567501 In the other news - it appears that NATO combat aircraft were trying to inrercept the MoD's aircraft over the neutral waters. __________________ Grumpy as always.

06-21-17, 07:22 AM	#3090
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	MoD's as in the aircraft carrying minister for defense (hence why it had escorting fighters), you can see the event as filmed by Zvezda crew on the aircraft: The escorting Flanker demonstates weapons at 000020 or so __________________ Grumpy as always.