[REL] OhioSSBN mod for Silent Hunter IV - Page 6

thyro · 03-13-09, 05:42 PM

Hi,

Ohio looks good

nice foam+wake on periscope... on low speed 1kn it seem a bit too much but looks great!

foam+wake on the tower is great! and "water" dropping from the planes is really nice feature

Q: can't the missile be homing? currently it needs manual intervention to set the correct tragectory to the target (between 5-10 degrees)

Just a couple suggestions:

Lower Ohio a little bit 42/43ft would give the sensation that water is climbing its bow like the real pictures.

Wake length... would be sweet if the wake could be extended a little bit further than subs length

Bow foam... this one seem a bit out of context, specially when the sub is idle. Cheers

Kaye T. Bai · 03-13-09, 06:24 PM

I have an issue with the mod.

For some reason, the updated version of Ohio-class submarine begins to sink very deep when submerged, to the point of her passing the crush depth. I can only keep her surfaced or else she'll sink to the point of implosion.

I fiddled with the depth meter, and pushed the periscope depth button to no avail. The only thing that works is the emergency surface button.

Oh, and good points there, thyro.

The Fishlord · 03-14-09, 07:53 PM

0.2 is great! Blew up a task force with Tomahawks. They're fun to use

The intro is awesome too.

But I don't seem to be able to get the ADCAPS right. It always just turns to the left 180 degrees and heads back behind me, like the FaT I LuT I think it's called, instead of homing in on anything. Anyone else have that problem?

thyro · 03-14-09, 07:55 PM

@tomagabriel

Perhaps something like this... (I'll drop u a PM with the file)

I just don't know where to lower her to 42ft when surfaced. To get the water over that "spike" at bow and add foam on that "spike" (I'm sorry don't know what it is nor more appropriate word for it).

Cheers

tomagabriel · 03-15-09, 04:49 AM

Hi, people!

Thanks for feedback. Sorry for the delay of answer, I just took a free day

Thyro, once again, your suggestions look too good not to implement. I will look into it and post the progress (got your pm too). Do not worry, as I said, the water effects a WIP. To lower the boat search for the NSS_OhioSSBN.sim. Inside this file search (with S3D) the record unit_Submarine and then in this record go to its properties at unit_Ship/obj_Hydro ant then in Surfaced&Submerged change draught. Caution if you want to increase one of them (submerge the ship more) you have to increase the other one with the same value.

I want people to confirm two issues some of you got:
a) ADCAPS turn around before hitting the ships.
b) the submarine dives uncontrollably (when stationary undrwater) until it exceeds maximum depth and is destroyed.

I am asking others because in my case this does not happen. WHat I did: ship stationary, set depth 160m,accelerate time. Once 160m depth is reached stood there for something like 15 minutes and nothing happened. Blow balast and returned to surface. I did not exceed 160m because it is the maximum dept on the stock depth gauge. As for torpedos: are all of them turning around? Or is it just some of them?

thyro · 03-15-09, 05:37 AM

Thanks for the insight... I had a look at that file but I don't understand it

b) the submarine dives uncontrollably (when stationary undrwater) until it exceeds maximum depth and is destroyed.

I've not seen it happening while stationary. But diving Ohio at high speed, the sub is unable to get into the desired depth and tend to go further down... I guess that is because its displacement.

Same happen if in high speed (full/flank) lets say if the sub is at 350ft then issue a periscope depth... it does surface entirely 1 or 2 times until it stabilizes at periscope depth.

tomagabriel · 03-15-09, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thyro

Thanks for the insight... I had a look at that file but I don't understand it

b) the submarine dives uncontrollably (when stationary undrwater) until it exceeds maximum depth and is destroyed.

I've not seen it happening while stationary. But diving Ohio at high speed, the sub is unable to get into the desired depth and tend to go further down... I guess that is because its displacement.

Same happen if in high speed (full/flank) lets say if the sub is at 350ft then issue a periscope depth... it does surface entirely 1 or 2 times until it stabilizes at periscope depth.

I think too these effects are due to displacement. Probably it can be fixed to some extent. I will see. If I dive at full speed a I too exceed 160 m , but the sub returns to the ordered depth after some oscillations.

keltos01 · 03-15-09, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thyro

@tomagabriel

Perhaps something like this... (I'll drop u a PM with the file)

I just don't know where to lower her to 42ft when surfaced. To get the water over that "spike" at bow and add foam on that "spike" (I'm sorry don't know what it is nor more appropriate word for it).

Cheers

[IMG]file:///d:/DOCUME%7E1/HELLER%7E1.DGA/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]try fiddling with the draught value in the .sim ?

keltos

Bartolomeus · 03-15-09, 02:19 PM

The Ohio is a amazing addon! Thx for the great work.

Marko

UrPeaceKeeper · 03-15-09, 04:54 PM

I too noticed an issue with the submerging to deep deep depths at low speeds. I was at periscope depth just outside of a harbor (dont ask :P) in one of the not so shallow zones I stopped myself then promptly found myself at the bottom of the ocean rubbing up against the bottom. I dont know why, but it did happen once. It hasent happened since.

Another issue I'm having, if I click in the control room on one of my officers I get the "Camera Out of Range" error, occasionally it will flip to a green screen. A minor annoyance to be honest.

I'm in love with the Anti Ship Missile! That thing is so fun to watch. It just needs some homing love though!

I'm testing this guy into the ground for you as I find it way too entertaining to pass up

Some new interriors and a few graphics things and I think this will be an outstanding mod!

EDIT: Assuming using the "Ideal" target position (almost 90 degrees to the path) I have determined that the following adjusted "target lead" with the Anti Ship Missile are as follows for the following speeds:

9 knots enemy ship speed, you stopped: 1.5 degree lead
7 knots enemy ship speed, you stopped: 1 degree lead

Both of those yeilded a smack dab in the center shot. I will continue to test to adjust for the time it takes the missile to reach speed, no luck with faster ships yet, it's about a 3-5 degree lead to hit a ship moving at about 18 knots ish. I'll keep testing

EDIT 2: 17 knots enemy ship speed, 13ish knots you forward: 4.5 degree lead

thyro · 03-15-09, 05:35 PM

Just for reference... a bunch of ext/int pictures

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/ssbn-726_i.htm

Cheers

The_Pharoah · 03-15-09, 05:56 PM

absolutely LOVE the sub but I can't figure out how to make the tomahawks work! I know I've missed it...can someone pls explain?

also, is it possible to make this sub not have any issues with CO2/batteries without us changing the realism ingame?

UrPeaceKeeper · 03-15-09, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Pharoah

absolutely LOVE the sub but I can't figure out how to make the tomahawks work! I know I've missed it...can someone pls explain?

also, is it possible to make this sub not have any issues with CO2/batteries without us changing the realism ingame?

Make sure you have them on board first and that the tubes are loaded ( by default 2 are loaded in tubes 3 and 4 ) Line up the shot, adjust the lead on the target and set the depth as close to 0 as it will let you go, then let er rip. They are not guided as far as I can tell. Getting the lead down is cruicial.

I carry 6 total on a patrol and usually end up sinking about 3 ships with them. Had to use 2 to finish off some of the heavier cargo ships.

That kinda leads into my next question, is there a way that we can dictate that these only fit in tubes 3 and 4 so the AI doesnt autoload all four tubes with an unguided missile? :P

The_Pharoah · 03-15-09, 08:34 PM

cool, thanks for that. I"m assuming that the tomahawks are just standard ADCAPs right? in the torp loading menu, I only have 3 types of torps (incl the ADCAP) which I think is the Mk 10 and 21...which one wd be the tomahawk?

*edit* man...now if we could only figure out how to 'mod' this tomahawk to a destroyer or frigate ingame.....mmmmmmmmmm

UrPeaceKeeper · 03-15-09, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Pharoah

cool, thanks for that. I"m assuming that the tomahawks are just standard ADCAPs right? in the torp loading menu, I only have 3 types of torps (incl the ADCAP) which I think is the Mk 10 and 21...which one wd be the tomahawk?

*edit* man...now if we could only figure out how to 'mod' this tomahawk to a destroyer or frigate ingame.....mmmmmmmmmm

Do you have the latest version of the mod? If not I'd suggest it. My torpedo's actually changed to a green torp (which is black in game for some reason?? Skin missing maybe?) and the ADCAP which looks like a missile. I'll take some pics later tonight for you. What other mods are you running? I'm only running PE4.0 and the SSBN and nothing else. The SSBN is the last on the JSGME list.

Just did a successfull Cruise Missile attack on a Japanese Task force... took out 4 carriers with four ADCAPs and most of the rest of the Task Force with the remaining 20 or so Torps I had. I really am loving the nuke, although I wouldnt mind some dummy torps sometimes! :P

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03-13-09, 05:42 PM	#76
thyro Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on a rock surrounded by water, that people call it UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Hi, Ohio looks good nice foam+wake on periscope... on low speed 1kn it seem a bit too much but looks great! foam+wake on the tower is great! and "water" dropping from the planes is really nice feature Q: can't the missile be homing? currently it needs manual intervention to set the correct tragectory to the target (between 5-10 degrees) Just a couple suggestions: Lower Ohio a little bit 42/43ft would give the sensation that water is climbing its bow like the real pictures. Wake length... would be sweet if the wake could be extended a little bit further than subs length Bow foam... this one seem a bit out of context, specially when the sub is idle. Cheers __________________ "The good news is that you’re never, ever more than 6 miles from land. The bad news is, the land is straight down!" Last edited by thyro; 03-13-09 at 08:04 PM.

03-13-09, 06:24 PM	#77
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 584 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I have an issue with the mod. For some reason, the updated version of Ohio-class submarine begins to sink very deep when submerged, to the point of her passing the crush depth. I can only keep her surfaced or else she'll sink to the point of implosion. I fiddled with the depth meter, and pushed the periscope depth button to no avail. The only thing that works is the emergency surface button. Oh, and good points there, thyro. Last edited by Kaye T. Bai; 03-13-09 at 08:56 PM.

03-14-09, 07:53 PM	#78
The Fishlord Planesman Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 185 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	0.2 is great! Blew up a task force with Tomahawks. They're fun to use The intro is awesome too. But I don't seem to be able to get the ADCAPS right. It always just turns to the left 180 degrees and heads back behind me, like the FaT I LuT I think it's called, instead of homing in on anything. Anyone else have that problem? Last edited by The Fishlord; 03-14-09 at 08:23 PM.

03-14-09, 07:55 PM	#79
thyro Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on a rock surrounded by water, that people call it UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	@tomagabriel Perhaps something like this... (I'll drop u a PM with the file) I just don't know where to lower her to 42ft when surfaced. To get the water over that "spike" at bow and add foam on that "spike" (I'm sorry don't know what it is nor more appropriate word for it). Cheers __________________ "The good news is that you’re never, ever more than 6 miles from land. The bad news is, the land is straight down!" Last edited by thyro; 03-14-09 at 08:16 PM.

03-15-09, 04:49 AM	#80
tomagabriel Machinist's Mate Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 122 Downloads: 110 Uploads: 3	Hi, people! Thanks for feedback. Sorry for the delay of answer, I just took a free day Thyro, once again, your suggestions look too good not to implement. I will look into it and post the progress (got your pm too). Do not worry, as I said, the water effects a WIP. To lower the boat search for the NSS_OhioSSBN.sim. Inside this file search (with S3D) the record unit_Submarine and then in this record go to its properties at unit_Ship/obj_Hydro ant then in Surfaced&Submerged change draught. Caution if you want to increase one of them (submerge the ship more) you have to increase the other one with the same value. I want people to confirm two issues some of you got: a) ADCAPS turn around before hitting the ships. b) the submarine dives uncontrollably (when stationary undrwater) until it exceeds maximum depth and is destroyed. I am asking others because in my case this does not happen. WHat I did: ship stationary, set depth 160m,accelerate time. Once 160m depth is reached stood there for something like 15 minutes and nothing happened. Blow balast and returned to surface. I did not exceed 160m because it is the maximum dept on the stock depth gauge. As for torpedos: are all of them turning around? Or is it just some of them?

03-15-09, 05:37 AM	#81
thyro Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on a rock surrounded by water, that people call it UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the insight... I had a look at that file but I don't understand it b) the submarine dives uncontrollably (when stationary undrwater) until it exceeds maximum depth and is destroyed. I've not seen it happening while stationary. But diving Ohio at high speed, the sub is unable to get into the desired depth and tend to go further down... I guess that is because its displacement. Same happen if in high speed (full/flank) lets say if the sub is at 350ft then issue a periscope depth... it does surface entirely 1 or 2 times until it stabilizes at periscope depth. __________________ "The good news is that you’re never, ever more than 6 miles from land. The bad news is, the land is straight down!"

03-15-09, 02:19 PM	#84
Bartolomeus Planesman Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 190 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	The Ohio is a amazing addon! Thx for the great work. Marko __________________

03-15-09, 04:54 PM	#85
UrPeaceKeeper Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 106 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I too noticed an issue with the submerging to deep deep depths at low speeds. I was at periscope depth just outside of a harbor (dont ask :P) in one of the not so shallow zones I stopped myself then promptly found myself at the bottom of the ocean rubbing up against the bottom. I dont know why, but it did happen once. It hasent happened since. Another issue I'm having, if I click in the control room on one of my officers I get the "Camera Out of Range" error, occasionally it will flip to a green screen. A minor annoyance to be honest. I'm in love with the Anti Ship Missile! That thing is so fun to watch. It just needs some homing love though! I'm testing this guy into the ground for you as I find it way too entertaining to pass up Some new interriors and a few graphics things and I think this will be an outstanding mod! EDIT: Assuming using the "Ideal" target position (almost 90 degrees to the path) I have determined that the following adjusted "target lead" with the Anti Ship Missile are as follows for the following speeds: 9 knots enemy ship speed, you stopped: 1.5 degree lead 7 knots enemy ship speed, you stopped: 1 degree lead Both of those yeilded a smack dab in the center shot. I will continue to test to adjust for the time it takes the missile to reach speed, no luck with faster ships yet, it's about a 3-5 degree lead to hit a ship moving at about 18 knots ish. I'll keep testing EDIT 2: 17 knots enemy ship speed, 13ish knots you forward: 4.5 degree lead Last edited by UrPeaceKeeper; 03-15-09 at 05:26 PM.

03-15-09, 05:35 PM	#86
thyro Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: on a rock surrounded by water, that people call it UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Just for reference... a bunch of ext/int pictures http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/slbm/ssbn-726_i.htm Cheers __________________ "The good news is that you’re never, ever more than 6 miles from land. The bad news is, the land is straight down!"

03-15-09, 05:56 PM	#87
The_Pharoah Soundman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 142 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	absolutely LOVE the sub but I can't figure out how to make the tomahawks work! I know I've missed it...can someone pls explain? also, is it possible to make this sub not have any issues with CO2/batteries without us changing the realism ingame?

03-15-09, 08:34 PM	#89
The_Pharoah Soundman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 142 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	cool, thanks for that. I"m assuming that the tomahawks are just standard ADCAPs right? in the torp loading menu, I only have 3 types of torps (incl the ADCAP) which I think is the Mk 10 and 21...which one wd be the tomahawk? edit man...now if we could only figure out how to 'mod' this tomahawk to a destroyer or frigate ingame.....mmmmmmmmmm