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03-12-17, 09:34 AM | #6121 |
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03-13-17, 09:01 AM | #6122 |
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Here we go again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-39255181 I hope that this time the pro UK side can actually come up with a positive case for remaining in the Union beyond money. That's if there is one? Mike.
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03-13-17, 09:13 AM | #6123 | |
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03-13-17, 09:29 AM | #6124 | |
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8am Meeting with Oberon 10am Coffee and Cigars with Oberon 11am Phone call to STEED, another meeting cancelled reason STEED is on holiday. 12PM Train to jim's 2pm Afternoon tea and smutty jokes with jim 4pm Train back to Oberon's 7pm Hanky panky with Oberon 8am next day Train back to No.10 12pm PMQ's Well this is a eye opener...
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03-13-17, 10:29 AM | #6125 | ||
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Sturgeon is totally blinkered, she should concentrate on helping the Scottish people and not selfishly trying to fulfill her own personal goals which she has clung on to since she was fifteen years of age when joining the SNP.
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03-13-17, 01:12 PM | #6126 |
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You could make the same accusation against Mr Farage, and yet he kept on and achieved his goals. There are few arguements you can make against Scottish independence that cannot be dismissed in a manner similar to that which the leave camp dismissed the remain camps concerns in the prelude to the Brexit vote. I suspect that there will be enough irony to go around with indyref2 that if Scotland were to harvest it it would be able to flood the market. The 'Better Together' group made a lot of promises in the last referendum, and I don't think a single one has been delivered, so 'Fool me once'. I wish Sturgeon and the SNP the best of luck this time.
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03-13-17, 03:42 PM | #6128 |
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On the subject of Scotland remaining in the EU if independence is achieved and Brexit takes place....
Scotland would have to apply because Scotland are a part of the UK. Should Scotland choose to split from the UK Right now or within the next 2 years then that automatically ejects them from the E.U. Scotland still has to apply to join the EU and there you have the final sting!! Go to the back of the Queue or as they say on the other side of the pond, the end of the line. Spain would surely object on the grounds it would encourage Catalan to gain independence (to give just one example).
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03-13-17, 04:22 PM | #6129 |
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Spain has clearly said they would veto Scotland.
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03-13-17, 04:27 PM | #6130 |
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03-13-17, 04:33 PM | #6131 |
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As you said the Catalan factor has made Spain firmly saying no. Of course Catalan may change their minds which may make Spain re think.
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03-13-17, 04:40 PM | #6132 | |
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Similarly with Greece, should Turkey ever get close to joining.
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03-13-17, 04:48 PM | #6133 |
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Then Scotland is boned and the SNP are living in fantasy land.
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03-13-17, 05:24 PM | #6134 | |
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Until and unless the situation occurs, we aren't going to know the actual answer to what Spain will do, do we?
The Spain angle is dismised out of hand by most SNP supporters as part of "Project Fear" anyway, so the No (Remain) side can't use it as it's a busted flush. As for the economic arguments, people still voted for Brexit despite all dire predictions as to what would happen to the economy, remember? Most Yes (Leave) supporters aren't going to pay more than lip service to that argument than the most ardent Brexiteers did. I did post this: Quote:
As much as this is an internal Scottish matter it does affect the rest of the UK. Not as much as Scotland, granted, but there's still an effect to be felt. Considering the situation up here, it behooves the people and politicians in the rest of the UK to start thinking of something positive to say about both Scotland and the Union rather than the usual crud we normally have flung at us about being a "financial drain", "Irn Bru" and "Deep Fried Mars Bars"! That's stooping to the same level as most anti-English knuckle dragger you can get. People have to rise above that sort of rubbish. Remember what I've posted previously about how Scotland see's itself and it's relation to the Union. Anything remotely negative is ammunition for the SNP. Mike.
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03-14-17, 06:42 AM | #6135 |
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I'm confident I'll have posted the fact I'm for the union remaining intact (just too bloody lazy to look) but I'm also of the opinion that should Scotland have a majority of those leaving then so be it.
Since the indy referendum in 2014 the facts are that currently the Scottish budget has become worse (aided and abetted by the slump in oil revenues) a major means of incomee. I think it would be fiscal madness for Sturgeon to push her personal/SNP agenda at this moment in time. I certainly don't consider myself a knowledgeable person on the subject and the above is purely my personal opinion.
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