You got SH5. You played it. Now RATE it for the rest of us! - Page 2

gutted · 03-01-10, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No, better idea: leave it like this and then later I can make it public. We'll see who voted for what, and we'll have a good idea who is honest and who isn't.

Do It!!!!

gutted · 03-01-10, 11:04 AM

double post

mookiemookie · 03-01-10, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No, better idea: leave it like this and then later I can make it public. We'll see who voted for what, and we'll have a good idea who is honest and who isn't.

Well now you've given away the secret.

joejccva71 · 03-01-10, 12:56 PM

I'm giving it a 6.5/10 as the game stands right now.

Pros:
Graphics
Intuitive crew roleplaying kind of system
Sub interiors and working machine systems
Being able to walk around the dock and talk to your crew members
Full scripting now included in modding system

Cons:
Immersion is gone
Explosions are more like a firework show
Surface ship crew walks around their decks while sinking
New UI isn't up to par from SH3/4
Menus instead of radials
Manual targeting system is cumbersone and not intuitive
Bugs and glitches (i know these can be fixed through patches)

It's not a horrible game, but it's not a great game either. To those modders out there, this game needs alot of work but we have extreme confidence that this game will turn out great ONCE it's modded.

Jeevz · 03-01-10, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

No, better idea: leave it like this and then later I can make it public. We'll see who voted for what, and we'll have a good idea who is honest and who isn't.

LOL, that should be interesting.

Hitman · 03-01-10, 01:11 PM

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Folks will always try to push their agendas through polls. It's one of the wonderful things about the Internets.

No agenda at all, quite the opposite: I admit I might be biased against SH5 because the DRM will keep me from buying it. Hence I want a different perspective and rating of the game. Oh, and later I can also double check the accurancy of Neal's review and rating

Sailor Steve · 03-01-10, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

No agenda at all, quite the opposite: I admit I might be biased against SH5 because the DRM will keep me from buying it.

You said it better than I would have. I'm not buying because of OSP, but the game itself, looks to be better than anything that's gone before - especially the scripting possibilities.

I can't wait to see the reviews, and how it develops.

Flopper · 03-01-10, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

The lack of a fully detailed working TDC is disappointing for us manual nuts, since it was in SH3.

What part(s) did they leave out?

Safe-Keeper · 03-01-10, 01:41 PM

The options are a bit overlapping anyhow. A game can be "amazing", "good but not perfect" and "disappointing in some aspects" at the same time.

03-01-10, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Flopper

What part(s) did they leave out?

From what I understand... the entire TDC.

I think this thread is a good idea. The more honest the answers, the more information some of us that are 'on the fence' about SH5 have to make a more informed decision.

I could be swayed if the modders can correct some of the missing equipment.

Méo · 03-01-10, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by joejccva71

It's not a horrible game, but it's not a great game either.

I agree with you to some extend.

My theory is that a lot of people have way too much expectations for a game that has, on one hand, very complex demands, and on the other, can only hope to sell around 250 000 copies (or maybe a bit more) but never 9 000 000 copies like other console games (which might be less complex to create).

So, from what I've seen so far (played about 5 hours, could play more but my computer really needs an upgrade). SH5 has some bugs, but more importantly, few things are missing (TDC, showing gyro angle, impossibility to know the depth under keel, etc).

Nevertheless, when I think about SH3 and SH4 vanilla (both games had a LOT of issues on release, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about), I'd say that SH5 is a step forward, not a HUGE step, but it seems to be a better (and is supposed to be particularly open to modding!).

I already know what some people will say: ''oh, if they would stop investing efforts in eye candy, they could succeed.'' Well I'd say that if they ignore eye candy, a lot of new potential customers could also ignore the game.

Just my 2 cents.

alx100 · 03-01-10, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Méo

I agree with you to some extend.

My theory is that a lot of people have way too much expectations for a game that has, on one hand, very complex demands, and on the other, can only hope to sell around 250 000 copies (or maybe a bit more) but never 9 000 000 copies like other console games (which might be less complex to create).

So, from what I've seen so far (played about 5 hours, could play more but my computer really needs an upgrade). SH5 has some issues, more importantly few things are missing (TDC, showing gyro angle, impossibility to know the depth under keel, etc).

Nevertheless, when I think about SH3 and SH4 vanilla (both games had a LOT of issues on release, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about), I'd say that SH5 is a step forward, not a HUGE step, but it seems to be a better (and is supposed to be particularly open to modding!).

I already know what some people will say: ''oh, if they would stop investing efforts in eye candy, they could succeed.'' Well I'd say that if they ignore eye candy, a lot of new potential customers could also ignore the game.

Just my 2 cents.

Just out of curiosity, what spec is your PC Meo? I'm pretty sure that i will be in the same boat as you, (excuse the pun).

CCIP · 03-01-10, 02:14 PM

Good but not perfect. I cannot give an objective "out of ten" rating yet due to limited experience with it so far, but it's very promising. I have a hunch that out of the box, it's already a much better game than III and IV were. It has good sea legs and frankly the ommissions and glitches so far that I've run into have been anything but show-stoppers, just minor irritations.

You have to keep in mind what it's going for though. At this moment, an ultra-accurate simulation of the Atlantic war it is certainly NOT. But that's not what it's going for. It's not trying to be a game-ification of Clay Blair's U-boat War, it's trying to be Das Boot. And so far it's doing a good job of that.

ddrgn · 03-01-10, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

Good but not perfect. I cannot give an objective "out of ten" rating yet due to limited experience with it so far, but it's very promising. I have a hunch that out of the box, it's already a much better game than III and IV were. It has good sea legs and frankly the ommissions and glitches so far that I've run into have been anything but show-stoppers, just minor irritations.

You have to keep in mind what it's going for though. At this moment, an ultra-accurate simulation of the Atlantic war it is certainly NOT. But that's not what it's going for. It's not trying to be a game-ification of Clay Blair's U-boat War, it's trying to be Das Boot. And so far it's doing a good job of that.

I 100% agree, its much better out of the box than SH3/4. Good but not perfect.

martes86 · 03-01-10, 03:00 PM

Wait a minute! It came out already?!?!

View Poll Results: Rate SH5!
Amazing! Best UBoat simulation I have ever played.	17	19.10%
Good but not perfect, though I definately like to play it.	31	34.83%
Dissapointing in some aspects. Will hope it gets better with mods.	26	29.21%
Bad. Shouldn't have bought it/will be collecting dust in my shelf	15	16.85%
Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll

03-01-10, 01:41 PM	#24
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The options are a bit overlapping anyhow. A game can be "amazing", "good but not perfect" and "disappointing in some aspects" at the same time. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

03-01-10, 02:14 PM	#28
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	Good but not perfect. I cannot give an objective "out of ten" rating yet due to limited experience with it so far, but it's very promising. I have a hunch that out of the box, it's already a much better game than III and IV were. It has good sea legs and frankly the ommissions and glitches so far that I've run into have been anything but show-stoppers, just minor irritations. You have to keep in mind what it's going for though. At this moment, an ultra-accurate simulation of the Atlantic war it is certainly NOT. But that's not what it's going for. It's not trying to be a game-ification of Clay Blair's U-boat War, it's trying to be Das Boot. And so far it's doing a good job of that. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-01-10, 11:04 AM	#17
gutted The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA. Posts: 1,353 Downloads: 470 Uploads: 10	double post

03-01-10, 12:56 PM	#19
joejccva71 Watch Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 23 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I'm giving it a 6.5/10 as the game stands right now. Pros: Graphics Intuitive crew roleplaying kind of system Sub interiors and working machine systems Being able to walk around the dock and talk to your crew members Full scripting now included in modding system Cons: Immersion is gone Explosions are more like a firework show Surface ship crew walks around their decks while sinking New UI isn't up to par from SH3/4 Menus instead of radials Manual targeting system is cumbersone and not intuitive Bugs and glitches (i know these can be fixed through patches) It's not a horrible game, but it's not a great game either. To those modders out there, this game needs alot of work but we have extreme confidence that this game will turn out great ONCE it's modded.

03-01-10, 03:00 PM	#30
martes86 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Colourful Seville - Spain Posts: 971 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Wait a minute! It came out already?!?!