Julian Assange leaving?

[Catfish]

Or he silently dies for no apparent reason.. there have been some ugly events with the british border police lately, plus US-american pressure

Assange
"mother's plea to police, prison officers, court staff re my son Julian"

Hes been

*8 yrs detained
WITHOUT charge

*6yrs deprived fresh air, exercise,sun/VitD

*3 yrs sick/in pain denied proper medical/dental care

*1yr isolated/tortured

Please be patient, gentle & kind to him"

Oh be sure..
Nah really, for what i heard he is either on a hunger strike, or getting crazy, or both..
https://translate.google.com/transla...5062.bild.html
(translation from the german "Bild", maybe worse than "The Sun" i'm not sure..

I trust them as much as i would trust "Fox News" or the "Express"

[Jimbuna]

Whatever the circumstances are behind his health problems surely he brought them about as a direct result of his own actions.

He chose to do what he did and certainly wasn't forced but obviously there will be those who disagree.

[STEED]

I would buy him a big bag of chips if he clears off out of the UK.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by STEED

I would buy him a big bag of chips if he clears off out of the UK.

Why did you arrest him? You could send him to one of your penal colonies, like Australia. After all he was born there

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Whatever the circumstances are behind his health problems surely he brought them about as a direct result of his own actions.

He chose to do what he did and certainly wasn't forced but obviously there will be those who disagree.

I will never express sympathy for the White Rose resistance group again.

[Jimbuna]

A Swedish judge has rejected a request to detain Julian Assange in absentia, complicating hopes to extradite him from the UK.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48503730

Will this ruling benefit the US claim I wonder?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Skybird

I will never express sympathy for the White Rose resistance group again.

You do not really think that propaganda has changed much after WW2, especially when it comes to anglosaxon internals?

[Mr Quatro]

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange's rape investigation dropped by Sweden: 'Evidence has weakened'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4236803002/

STOCKHOLM – Sweden on Tuesday dropped its investigation into an alleged rape by WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who is currently in prison in Britain.

Assange, who is battling extradition to the United States, which accuses him of publishing secret documents related to his WikiLeaks work, has been facing potential charges in Sweden since 2010. The 48-year-old has denied all allegations against him.

Prosecutor Eve-Marie Persson said the case was being dropped because "the evidence has weakened considerably due to the long period of time that has elapsed since the events in question."

[Jimbuna]

The 48-year-old Australian was evicted in April and sentenced to 50 weeks in jail for breaching his bail conditions.

He is currently being held at Belmarsh prison in London.

Assange was due to be released from HMP Belmarsh in September after serving the custody period of his jail term.

But a judge ruled that Assange should remain in jail until his extradition hearing because of his "history of absconding".

Last month, a judge rejected Assange's attempt to delay the full extradition hearing, which is scheduled to take place at Westminster Magistrate's Court in London in February.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50473792

Possible extradition to the US early next year then

[Catfish]

^ by which authority?

[Jimbuna]

The British judicial system I presume.

[Catfish]

This is why i ask, by which authority?
As far as i know Assange has done nothing that interferes with UK law. Let alone surrending a foreigner to anwhere else than his nation of birth.

I know it is too bad that the US has once more been caught red-handed, so does that mean that legal behaviour has to be abandoned entirely in your "west"?
Maybe they could surrender him to China, if the latter demanded it? "Take back control" eh?

I do see any legal behaviour and common sense serving the public go down the drain in the last ten years. It is not only the well-known authoritarian nations unfortunately.

[Jimbuna]

Everyone will have an opinion of their own but much of mine factors on the fact he broke his bail conditions at the beginning and is therefore subject to British law.

The fact the US has applied for extradition so the wheels of the judicial system must turn I suppose.

[Catfish]

Everyone has his opinion, and lately some certain "opinion" has obviously become "the law". In how far is the UK better than Russia now.
Lickspittles. Everyone knows exactly what is going on, and the wheels of the english judicial system are unfortunately turning wrong regarding international law. We do not need to discuss it further, Assange will be dead soon and the nationalists will celebrate.
England has come a long way. This article is three years old.

[Skybird]

The Swedes have served their purpüose and are no longer needed, so they leave the stage.

In the British decision making to follow now, Brexit and the UK being hopeful to get a good trade agreement with the US, will play a role. Trump would not be Trump if not drumming the drum with this stick. His behaviour in blackmailing the Ukraine speaks precedence.

It would serve the British reputation well, if giving Assange a formal sentence for bail violation, calculatung that with the isolation imprisonment Assange is in needlessly and the psychic consequences of that (many speak of de facto torture), and letting him go, ignoring the Donaldinarium across the pond. For the little boy in the WH, Assange is not about treaosn or not, secrecy or not, good or evil, right or wrong: for this big child the Assange case is just an opportunity to bribe miliutary servicemen with theatralic concenssions and buy the sympoathy, like he did with the pardoning of three US-sentenced war criminals short time ago.

And lets face it: no matter whether we like Assange as a person or not - we owe him, like we owe Snowden as well. Many of us still would live in blidnness over certain things that we should kinow our govenrtment and that big data and that intel servicesd are doing against our personal interests. From now , we do not have the excuse anymore that "we did not know". From now on, we must admit that where we continue to ignore unwanted truths - we live in blindness due to our own choice and decision. Before, our ignorrance was was lacking knowledge. Now, our ignorrance is is our choice.

I still cannto stand him as a person, but he has de facto lived in detention since a decade, without a court sentence, and due to the very well founded fear that a plot is staged against him to get the US service's hands on him. De facto he already has served a ten year spriuson sentence. And for what...? That relativizes any staged claim about bail violations. He had good and imo justified reason to violate his bail.

The UK should set him free and let him go immediately. This conspiracy has gone way too far and way too long already. I think he even should be given compensation.