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08-17-16, 04:23 PM | #1 |
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The levers at the top of the control room, are for a fast opening of the upper tank valves = rapid flooding. No time to turn a wheel, just pull those levers and tear open the upper flooding valves for a crash dive.
The VIIC boats had 5 ballast tanks. They were located inside and outside of the pressure hull. The tanks located in the saddles have two parts: port and starboard! The yare therefore doubly listed in the table below. According to the plans for type VIIc boats (from the Admiralty Technical Report on U-570), order of description: Tank number Between Frames Capacity (tons sea water) Fitted with No. 1 (single) Main Ballast tank (rear end of the boat) -10 to 0, external, aft of pressure hull above aft torpedo tube 31 Hand-worked vent, direct blow, exhaust blow - no Kingston valve, the bottom is open to the sea No. 2 (double) Main Ballast and Reserve Fuel Oil tank 17-34, external, in saddle tank 11.4 Two kingston operating positions working four kingstons, one T-wrench operated emergency vent valve leading into a duct to a common quick-opening lever-operated vent for No. 2 port and No. 4 port fuel tanks, one after-end auxiliary vent leading into a duct to a common auxiliary vent for port and starboard tanks, direct blow, exhaust blow, compensating and blow-out connections. Saddle tank fuel tanks are tested to only 15 lbs./sq. in. No. 2 Main Ballast and Reserve Fuel Oil tank 17-34, external, in saddle tank 11.4 As for No. 2 port, one T-wrench operated emergency vent valve leading into a duct to a common quick-opening lever-operated vent for No. 2 starboard and No. 4 starboard fuel tanks, one after-end auxiliary vent leading into a duct to a common auxiliary vent for port and starboard tanks. No. 3 (single) Main Ballast. tank, internal 40-49, internal, below control room 47.75* Four operating positions working six kingstons, direct blows, exhaust blows, two T-wrench operated emergency vent valves to port and starboard at the pressure hull to a duct which leads through the No. 2 Regulating tank at the end of which are two quick-opening lever-operated vents to the sea - tank tested to full diving depth so Kingstons could remain open at depth. No. 4 (double) Main Ballast and Reserve Fuel Oil tank 45 1/2-62, external, in saddle tank 13.5 Two operating positions working four kingstons, one T-wrench operated emergency vent valve leading into a duct to a common quick-opening lever-operated vent for No. 2 port and No. 4 port fuel tanks, direct blow, exhaust blow, compensating and blow-out connections. No. 4 Main Ballast and Reserve Fuel Oil tank 45 1/2-62, external, in saddle tank 13.5 As for No. 4 port, one emergency T-wrench operated vent valve leading into a duct to a common quick-opening lever-operated vent for No. 2 starboard and No. 4 starboard fuel tanks. No. 5 (single) Main Ballast tank (at the bow of the boat) 80-106, external, forward of pressure hull surrounding forward torpedo tubes 25.3 One hand worked vent, direct blow, exhaust blow - there is no Kingston valve in this tank the bottom is open to the sea Apart from those 5 'variable' flooding tanks, there were 'fixed' tight buoyancy tanks, 'variable' trimming tanks, fuel tanks being open to the sea at the bottom (Diesel swims on water) and fuel tanks being used for trimming - either by flooding them with seawater after being spent, or to be pumped around for trimming purposes. I guess it is easy if you look at one system at a time Generally the ballast tanks were blown out by compressed air stored in pressure bottles, not pumped out. Or, after surfacing or using a "Schnorchel" they could be fully blown out by the Diesels, having the advantage of the fatty exhaust fumes protecting the inner tanks from seawater. During diving, tanks could only be blown out by air pressure. The bilge and auxiliary pumps were installed to empty the bilge and for trimming, not for emptying ballast tanks. Air pressure in the bottles were replenished by the Junkers compressor. Ah whatever
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11-29-19, 10:49 PM | #2 |
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Introduction and About Saddle Tanks . . .
Hello! I just registered at Subsim. I am excited to participate in this forum, because I am incredibly fascinated by WWI and WWII submarines. Also, I found this forum stumbling around during some research.
Be warned though: I have MANY questions. One of these involves the saddle tanks of the Type VIIC and the stability bulges of the Italian Navy's Submarines (WWII). From plans of a VIIC it seems the tanks were placed at the upper body of the ship. Would it be logical to place them along the whole side instead of just the upper area? I put in an image of the plans I am referring to. |
11-29-19, 11:14 PM | #3 |
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08-26-16, 07:24 AM | #5 |
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Would like to continue this interesting conversation. Going trough uboat manuals and i see three things.
1) Blowing 2) Venting 3) Flooding I know what blowing and flooding does. What does venting do? In many places it seems to be similar to flooding but then i see stuff like this in manual standing side by side "Vent valve for main ballast tank 3" "Flood valve for main ballast tank 3" What is the difference? |
08-26-16, 02:54 PM | #6 |
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Ahoi Gotmilk,
on VIIC is tank #3 the middle 'Tauchzelle' (bad translation 'diving cell' ) There are tanks to compensate torpedos, tanks to accelerate diving... but 'Tauchzellen' are for trimm... These tanks get a valve to let the air out off the top "Vent"; or to let the Water in from the buttom "flood"; also to "blow" compressed air into them... eg: go Dive: both open go Surface: 'Vent' close, 'flood' open and 'blow' out the water through the opened 'flood' with compressed air now comes trim: keep Periscope depth: 'vent' close, 'flood' open and the sub 'swims' under water on the pressured air inside that tank Last edited by Feldpost; 08-26-16 at 03:17 PM. |
05-15-19, 07:02 PM | #7 | |
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05-15-19, 08:10 PM | #8 |
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Welcome aboard!
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12-02-23, 05:35 PM | #9 | |
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Personally, I'd like nothing better than working harder to maintain PD, or adjusting longitudinal trim and the regulated tank to deal with loss of weight due torpedoes being fired. (etc) |
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