UK Politics Thread

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

When will this woman get the message and stop being so stubborn?

Never she be on the sea bed in denile that the ship was sinking and has now sunk!

[Jimbuna]

Theresa May is launching a fresh push to convince MPs to back her Brexit deal as they begin five days of debate.

The prime minister cancelled a vote on her deal last month at the last minute to avoid a humiliating defeat.

She is hoping new proposals on Northern Ireland will change enough MPs' minds to save the deal.

But the DUP have already rejected the plans - and rebel Tories are planning a move that could give MPs more say over what happens if her deal is rejected.

The MPs, headed by former Tory ministers Oliver Letwin and Dominic Grieve, helped inflict a defeat on the government on Tuesday on an amendment aimed at making it more difficult to leave the EU without a deal.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46805269

You just couldn't make this stuff up....

She wins a confidence vote which means she can't be challenged for a further year so remains seriously stubborn and intransigent thereby running the risk of alienating more of her core supporters yet running the risk of bringing about a general election!!

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The DUP has once again rejected MayBot's new worded document that changes nothing to the agreement...WHY BOTHER!

As Brexit debate begins, PM fails to win over Northern Irish kingmakers

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-br...-idUKKCN1P30MD




I now feel old Jezzer can sit back and take the keys to No.10. MayBot has failed and she will loose voters as they will punish the Tories even if that means letting Jezzer in for a term.




Its painful watching PMQ's as MayBot trys to flog her deal that no one wants. This women must be removed from office she is damaging the country with her bloody mindedness its my way or the highway!

[Jimbuna]

The highway it must be then.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

You just couldn't make this stuff up....

She wins a confidence vote which means she can't be challenged for a further year so remains seriously stubborn and intransigent thereby running the risk of alienating more of her core supporters yet running the risk of bringing about a general election!!

But what do you expect her to do now? There is nothing left she could do.The EU is where it wanted to be: in a position where it can mercilessly strangle the UK. May helped to achieve that position, and now cannot reverse that anymore. There will be no renegotiations- And with the recent defeat in parliament, she also cannot execute Brexit without a deal. Since she will not get another deal than the one there is now, and this deal will not pass parliament, Brexit thus can not happen.


Plain logic until here. But then, its politicians. Logic usually is the first victim in their manouvers.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

But what do you expect her to do now? There is nothing left she could do.The EU is where it wanted to be: in a position where it can mercilessly strangle the UK. May helped to achieve that position, and now cannot reverse that anymore. There will be no renegotiations- And with the recent defeat in parliament, she also cannot execute Brexit without a deal. Since she will not get another deal than the one there is now, and this deal will not pass parliament, Brexit thus can not happen.


Plain logic until here. But then, its politicians. Logic usually is the first victim in their manouvers.

One of these three outcomes...

1) A second referendum.
2) Remain.
3) General Election.

I wouldn't like to make a call on this but one thing I am confident of is the fact that relations between the UK and EU have deteriorated and will take a long time to repair.

EDIT: I should have included an extention of Article 50 in the above list but I'm wondering what point would an extension be if all parties are completely divided.

[ikalugin]

Reminds me of:

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(((BREAKING NEWS)))

The government has LOST the amendment vote to force the government to publish its plans for Plan-B within three days.


PLAN-B is that handing out suicide pills?

I agree with Beth Rigby on SKY News May has lost control of her cabinet and Parliament.

Vote Result
Yes 308
No 297
Majority 11

https://news.sky.com/story/live-brex...eputy-11602548

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

One of these three outcomes...

1) A second referendum.
2) Remain.
3) General Election.

I wouldn't like to make a call on this but one thing I am confident of is the fact that relations between the UK and EU have deteriorated and will take a long time to repair.

EDIT: I should have included an extention of Article 50 in the above list but I'm wondering what point would an extension be if all parties are completely divided.

Just to add to that jim, if the government looses the vote next week Labour could call for a vote of no confidence in the government. But I suspect they will not as the DUP said in that case they would vote for the government.

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Brexit: Jeremy Corbyn demands election to 'break deadlock'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46824125

Election part aside why is he asking other party's to support vote of no confidence in the government when the LibDem's SNP Greens have been for months telling him to do it.

[Jimbuna]

Brexit debate live: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-p...ments-46784460

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BREAKING BREXIT NEWS

The former head of MI6 has written to Conservative chairs urging them to tell MPs not to back Theresa May's Brexit deal because it threatens "national security".

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-m...warns-11603738


That will put the cat among the pigeons.

[Jimbuna]

Campaign Fear

[Jimbuna]

Theresa May has spoken to the leaders of two of the biggest unions in the UK as she continues to try to build support for her Brexit deal.

The PM spoke to Unite's Len McCluskey and the GMB's Tim Roache by phone on Thursday in what her spokesman described as "constructive" calls.

He said Mrs May was undertaking "widespread engagement" about the deal.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46817503

Well she is certainly wasting her time and breathe there.

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Clarkson puts the boot in on Brexit leave...

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/10...ote-referendum