GTX260 is worse then 8800GT

[goldwing]

Title says it all... I have been playing this game for over a month (only pc game i have) with my old 8800GT using medium settings but i wanted all the eye candy this game offers so i went out today and bought a new BFG Geforce GTX 260 OC with 896 GDDR3 plus a 650w ps thinking i was taking a big step up. Well what a waste of $300. Whats this game need to run perfect? Is there a way to see what my framerates are while playing? Thanks for any ideas anyone has before i try to return this card.

Originally Posted by goldwing

Title says it all... I have been playing this game for over a month (only pc game i have) with my old 8800GT using medium settings but i wanted all the eye candy this game offers so i went out today and bought a new BFG Geforce GTX 260 OC with 896 GDDR3 plus a 650w ps thinking i was taking a big step up. Well what a waste of $300. Whats this game need to run perfect? Is there a way to see what my framerates are while playing? Thanks for any ideas anyone has before i try to return this card.

I will try to answer you just to the first question, I don't know the correct answer for the second one. Unfortunately, it seems that one of this game problems (not mentioning now DRM and the critical bugs related strictly to gameplay) is the fact that the game graphical engine is not optimized in the best way possible, so probably even if you will have one NASA computer, you won't still be able to play this game like you can play for example Bioshock 2 with a good system available on the market today. I think it's not Nvidia's fault this time ...

[jazman]

Originally Posted by goldwing

... Is there a way to see what my framerates are while playing? ...

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[Task Force]

Yep, the game has some performance issues. its not your gpu. If you slapped a new 480 on it it would still probably lag.

[F4ll3n]

I run SH 5 on my Duo 6850 4gigs ram with 8800GT as well maxed without AA and Shadows at 1440x900 with no magor pblem exept some mouse lag on interior no big deal.

There is no way I am going to upgrate my GT for this game when I run the majority of the latest games on max settings at DX9 without problems. GTX260 even if it stocked and not OC edition is a magor upgrate from a 8800GT. As Task Force and Stronghold wrote problem comes with game not with gfx cards.

[mcarlsonus]

New 1GB GTS250 - a lower end $150 model. Running HDMI into 32" 1080i monitor at 1280x720, 60MHz refresh (it's somewhere in there, anyway. Running 5:4 unwindowed as 16:9 doesn't work at all well!) No problems and only lag is in interior - which I rarely use (a nice novelty, but talking to the crew does nothing for the unmodded morale issue, so, why bother? Grows old...FAST!)

[JU_88]

I have a GTX275 and SHV flies on it with no major glitches. So i dont see why the 260 would specifically have issues.

[Kromus]

Originally Posted by Task Force

Yep, the game has some performance issues. its not your gpu. If you slapped a new 480 on it it would still probably lag.

This.

Running 280GTX 80+fps (vertical sync on, if off then slightly more) at open sea and inside sub, dropping to low 30 in harbours depending on how many ships/object are around. If large convoys are around at open sea (20-30 ships) drops to 40-60 fps.

[goldwing]

Originally Posted by Kromus

This.

Running 280GTX 80+fps (vertical sync on, if off then slightly more) at open sea and inside sub, dropping to low 30 in harbours depending on how many ships/object are around. If large convoys are around at open sea (20-30 ships) drops to 40-60 fps.

Can you do me a big favor and start the 2nd historical mission called "in spite of everything" and when it first starts your on the bridge with alot of ship movement and tell me your average fps for the first 3-4 minutes of that mission? I get 33 with my 8800gt and 13 with my gtx260.

Thanks

[Gato76]

Goldwing i think ur problem is the power supply,the minimum you need is 550 watts for that card.Do you have the two PS molex plugged in the card ? I'm running the same video card and i get 40 to 60 fps with max settings and do your self a favor,go back to 64 bit

[Kromus]

Originally Posted by goldwing

Can you do me a big favor and start the 2nd historical mission called "in spite of everything" and when it first starts your on the bridge with alot of ship movement and tell me your average fps for the first 3-4 minutes of that mission? I get 33 with my 8800gt and 13 with my gtx260.

Thanks

No problem

On the bridge, vsync on (shadows off):

Looking straight, about 30-35 fps
Looking to the right pretty much same
Looking behind, up to 42-3 fps
Looking to the left, mid 30 fps

It all depends on objects that card is rendering at the moment.

But having only 13 fps with 260 thats definately something strange going on

My specs:
(3 years old machine, GTX280 2 years)
Q6600
4GB RAM
Win vista 64 bit Ultimate
Looking forward for the full machine upgrade at the end of the year.

[THE_MASK]

5870 seems to run ok . AAX4 AFX16 1920x1080 . All SH5 graphic settings set to max . All options ticked except vertical sync .

I have noticed that if i put the card in control panel to optimal settings , the picture will be better and i get around 35fps average . If i put the standard settings to high quality and then bump the aa up 4x and af up to 16x and leave the other settings then i get around 120 fps average .

[Icarus1]

Originally Posted by goldwing

Title says it all... I have been playing this game for over a month (only pc game i have) with my old 8800GT using medium settings but i wanted all the eye candy this game offers so i went out today and bought a new BFG Geforce GTX 260 OC with 896 GDDR3 plus a 650w ps thinking i was taking a big step up. Well what a waste of $300. Whats this game need to run perfect? Is there a way to see what my framerates are while playing? Thanks for any ideas anyone has before i try to return this card.

Remember a GTX 260 is nearly half a GTX295, I have 2 GTX 260 SLI which is almost as fast as a GTX295 (which is actually 2 x 260's). I get good frame rates with everything on high at 16x superssamp AA and 2560x1600 res. I can tell you for sure that the 8800's are not better than the 260's as I had 8800's before these cards. Sounds like the card you have might have an issue. Perhaps a bad memory module or something. It happens.

[goldwing]

Originally Posted by Icarus1

Remember a GTX 260 is nearly half a GTX295, I have 2 GTX 260 SLI which is almost as fast as a GTX295 (which is actually 2 x 260's). I get good frame rates with everything on high at 16x superssamp AA and 2560x1600 res. I can tell you for sure that the 8800's are not better than the 260's as I had 8800's before these cards. Sounds like the card you have might have an issue. Perhaps a bad memory module or something. It happens.

I agree that the gtx260 must be defective, what else could it be? It works fine for playing blurays etc but not this game. Can you tell me what your fps are with the start of that mission using your 2 cards please? I am not going to spend more then i already have just to play 1 game that i will get bored with in 2 months...just not going to happen...i already spent 180 on the card, another 80 on a better ps plus another 100 on 2 more gigs of memory just for this 1 game, oh and the cost of the game itself. I am not a "gamer" at at.

[Icarus1]

Originally Posted by goldwing

I agree that the gtx260 must be defective, what else could it be? It works fine for playing blurays etc but not this game. Can you tell me what your fps are with the start of that mission using your 2 cards please? I am not going to spend more then i already have just to play 1 game that i will get bored with in 2 months...just not going to happen...i already spent 180 on the card, another 80 on a better ps plus another 100 on 2 more gigs of memory just for this 1 game, oh and the cost of the game itself. I am not a "gamer" at at.

I get 28-45 in FRAPS. If you use nHancer or Nvidia CP make sure AA is OFF and AF is OFF. Otherwise your system is processing AA in game and 16x via vid CP -double. Games like SH5 will choke on this.