NYGM and USAM

BigWalleye · 10-27-14, 07:59 AM

I have been trying to use USAM v69.61.1 with NYGM v3.6D. I get a CTD about 40% of the way through the initial load screen. Never get to the main menu. I run a fairly heavy mod soup, so I have stripped my active mods down to NYGM v2.5, NYGM3 New, and NYGM 3.6D. Same result. On the same hardware, USAM installs and runs fine in a heavily modded GWX3.0 installation.

I have searched and do not turn up any posts regarding an incompatibilty betwen USAM and NYGM. Is this a known problem? I did notice that there was not a mention of NYGM on the USAM release thread.

padi · 10-27-14, 08:59 AM

What is USAM?

WilhelmSchulz. · 10-27-14, 10:46 AM

Its kinda like a supper mod for the targets. It adds ALOT of new merchants as well as some escorts and aircraft.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=206493

@ Walleye -
Do you have the 4gig patch. I had a similiar problem with the "Merchant Fleet Mod" until I used the 4 gig patch.

BigWalleye · 10-27-14, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilhelmSchulz.

Its kinda like a supper mod for the targets. It adds ALOT of new merchants as well as some escorts and aircraft.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=206493

@ Walleye -
Do you have the 4gig patch. I had a similiar problem with the "Merchant Fleet Mod" until I used the 4 gig patch.

Yes, I do use the 4GB patch (installed through h.sie's patcher). I can run MFM without any problem. And USAM runs fine in an installation based on GWX3.0. So it is only NYGM that seems to have a conflict, even basic NYGM with no other mods activated. Have others had this problem, or is it due to some error that I am making?

UPDATE:

Playing around, I tried activating USAM over the top of MFM on a base of GWX3 and 33 other mods. Took time to load, but ran find. Able to start a career, no sweat.

Then I put USAM into a rockstock SH3 install, with NO other mods. CTD during IPL. Sahay what?

Does USAM work only with GWX? Or am I doing something crazy wrong? I have downloaded USAM from two different sites, unzipped repeatedly, and always the same result. USAM hums along in a GWX install, but won't even IPL to the main menu in stock SH3 or NYGM.

BigWalleye · 10-31-14, 04:44 PM

Sorry about the double post (double double actually). But I have found the problem and wanted to get it on SubSim in case anyone tries to do this in the future.

WB’s Ultimate Ship and Aircraft Mod is not compatible with stock SH3 or with any megamod except GWX3. This is not just a matter of having to DIY mod the three Campaign_XXX.mis files. That is easy to do with the SH3 Mission Editor and the merge files Wreford-Brown includes with USAM.

USAM modifies the .cfg files for a lot of units. The modified files are based on the ship and aircraft types included in GWX3. If those ship and aircraft folders are not present, the game will crash on loading. It is possible to work around this problem. (i go it to work with NYGM.) But it isn’t easy. Kids, don’t try this at home!

UPDATE: I spoke too soon. My kludge DOESN’T work. I was using school missions to test it. The game will load and run school missions ONLY. Single missions and careers (both brand new and in-port) CTD from the mission loading screen. My fix, she no work!

10-27-14, 07:59 AM	#1
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	NYGM and USAM I have been trying to use USAM v69.61.1 with NYGM v3.6D. I get a CTD about 40% of the way through the initial load screen. Never get to the main menu. I run a fairly heavy mod soup, so I have stripped my active mods down to NYGM v2.5, NYGM3 New, and NYGM 3.6D. Same result. On the same hardware, USAM installs and runs fine in a heavily modded GWX3.0 installation. I have searched and do not turn up any posts regarding an incompatibilty betwen USAM and NYGM. Is this a known problem? I did notice that there was not a mention of NYGM on the USAM release thread.

10-27-14, 10:46 AM	#3
WilhelmSchulz. The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Virgina Beach Posts: 1,301 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Its kinda like a supper mod for the targets. It adds ALOT of new merchants as well as some escorts and aircraft. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=206493 @ Walleye - Do you have the 4gig patch. I had a similiar problem with the "Merchant Fleet Mod" until I used the 4 gig patch. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink… others require our assistance."

10-31-14, 04:44 PM	#5
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	Sorry about the double post (double double actually). But I have found the problem and wanted to get it on SubSim in case anyone tries to do this in the future. WB’s Ultimate Ship and Aircraft Mod is not compatible with stock SH3 or with any megamod except GWX3. This is not just a matter of having to DIY mod the three Campaign_XXX.mis files. That is easy to do with the SH3 Mission Editor and the merge files Wreford-Brown includes with USAM. USAM modifies the .cfg files for a lot of units. The modified files are based on the ship and aircraft types included in GWX3. If those ship and aircraft folders are not present, the game will crash on loading. It is possible to work around this problem. (i go it to work with NYGM.) But it isn’t easy. Kids, don’t try this at home! UPDATE: I spoke too soon. My kludge DOESN’T work. I was using school missions to test it. The game will load and run school missions ONLY. Single missions and careers (both brand new and in-port) CTD from the mission loading screen. My fix, she no work! Last edited by BigWalleye; 11-01-14 at 07:10 AM.

10-27-14, 08:59 AM	#2
padi Officer Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 249 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	What is USAM?