Is there anything more frustrating...

Tinman764 · 04-25-12, 06:08 PM

than executing the perfect convoy intercept from 250km away, finding it guarded by just 2 ASW's, setting up the perfect shots on 2 fat tankers, watching all 4 of your fish bounce off the their hulls...

u crank · 04-25-12, 06:14 PM

In before Jim.

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE

Tinman764 · 04-25-12, 06:19 PM

Aye aye Captain! Ramming speed it is! Time to find out what the dud rate of a Type VIIb is!

zygoma · 04-25-12, 06:46 PM

I couldn't afford enough Prilosec and Xanax to keep my tummy happy after going through a few patrols with duds enabled, so now if it's a good angle, it goes boom.
At the opposite end of the spectrum, I've watched a Type IV Falke acoustic run up behind a Clemson destroyer, bounce off the rudder, stop a moment and apparently clear the stars and birds from its brain, then lunge ahead again. Shortly thereafter, it bounced off a prop and I muttered an impressive string of obscenities (for a now-civilian, anyway...). THEN it seemed to find its third wind, whizzed up behind, and blew the stern off the ship.
Talk about a nail-biter! Sure wish the other torps were that smart (or that unrealistic....)
-- Zygoma --

Hinrich Schwab · 04-25-12, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinman764

than executing the perfect convoy intercept from 250km away, finding it guarded by just 2 ASW's, setting up the perfect shots on 2 fat tankers, watching all 4 of your fish bounce off the their hulls...

Duds suck. Period. Four-in-a-row however, is albeit odd. I suspect your AOB was either less than 85 degrees or more than 95. Once out of the +/- 5 degree window, the dud rate goes up exponentially. Likewise, certain torpedoes (Type II-Early War) were notoriously faulty. Since U Crank beat me to the "Official Silent Hunter Slogan", I won't repeat it. However, the only thing you could have done is avoid any spooked escorts and follow the tankers outside visual range and hopefully overtake them on the surface at night to try again with four fresh fish.

Missing Name · 04-25-12, 08:26 PM

In a situation strangely like U-56's, I had a perfect spread on HMS Nelsol... only for all shots to be duds. At least the AI doesn't do anything about dud hits...

andwii · 04-25-12, 10:20 PM

ya I caught the Hood off guard in a task force of 4 battleships. Fired 4 eels at her, 2 dudded so I was really upset then the 3rd hit and sank the her. (ya one torpedo I was surprised). dumb duds, but I got her none the less.

Tinman764 · 04-26-12, 01:01 AM

Yep, not the 1st time I've had a similar situation with the Nelson aswell - out of 2 attacks and 8 fish only 2 actually reached her, 1 missed and the other bounced off.

As for last nights attack - I was so pleased with myself after intercepting the convoy at exactly the time and place I expected it to be that I guess I got a bit greedy and took shots at around 75-80% AOB on both ships.

Oh well live to fight another day!

Gargamel · 04-26-12, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Missing Name

In a situation strangely like U-56's, I had a perfect spread on HMS Nelsol... only for all shots to be duds. At least the AI doesn't do anything about dud hits...

Wel considering the captain of prien's target didn't even bother checking on an actual hit, I'd doubt that anybody other than the crew in that immediate compartment would even notice a dud hit, let alone figure out what it was.

Captain Nemo · 04-26-12, 02:34 AM

It is also worth noting that a torpedo has to run 300 metres before it will arm itself, anything less and it will bounce off the target.

Nemo

Osmium Steele · 04-26-12, 07:16 AM

How bout firing your last two eels at a modern tanker, in 15 M/S seas, watching them bounce, and as you are waiting for the convoy to cruise on by, you notice something trailing them, yet it doesn't appear on sonar.

When I hit F12 and take a look, since I cannot hit them anyway, I find not one but TWO 44000 ton Aquitania cruise liners, doing 1 knot, sitting very low in the water.

They both succumb to the high sea states within an hour. 88k just gone.

04-25-12, 06:08 PM	#1
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Is there anything more frustrating... than executing the perfect convoy intercept from 250km away, finding it guarded by just 2 ASW's, setting up the perfect shots on 2 fat tankers, watching all 4 of your fish bounce off the their hulls...

04-25-12, 06:14 PM	#2
u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,559 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	In before Jim. BE MORE AGGRESSIVE __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

04-25-12, 06:46 PM	#4
zygoma Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 84 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I couldn't afford enough Prilosec and Xanax to keep my tummy happy after going through a few patrols with duds enabled, so now if it's a good angle, it goes boom. At the opposite end of the spectrum, I've watched a Type IV Falke acoustic run up behind a Clemson destroyer, bounce off the rudder, stop a moment and apparently clear the stars and birds from its brain, then lunge ahead again. Shortly thereafter, it bounced off a prop and I muttered an impressive string of obscenities (for a now-civilian, anyway...). THEN it seemed to find its third wind, whizzed up behind, and blew the stern off the ship. Talk about a nail-biter! Sure wish the other torps were that smart (or that unrealistic....) -- Zygoma -- __________________ If it's long and dark green and its bite makes you scream, that's..... a Moray. 7/5 of adults don't understand fractions. I'm told that two things can be reliably predicted to fail with increasing age. The first is memory. I can't remember the other right now.

04-25-12, 08:26 PM	#6
Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	In a situation strangely like U-56's, I had a perfect spread on HMS Nelsol... only for all shots to be duds. At least the AI doesn't do anything about dud hits... __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

04-26-12, 02:34 AM	#10
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	It is also worth noting that a torpedo has to run 300 metres before it will arm itself, anything less and it will bounce off the target. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

04-25-12, 06:19 PM	#3
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Aye aye Captain! Ramming speed it is! Time to find out what the dud rate of a Type VIIb is!

04-25-12, 10:20 PM	#7
andwii Frogman Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Bridge of U-123 Posts: 300 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	ya I caught the Hood off guard in a task force of 4 battleships. Fired 4 eels at her, 2 dudded so I was really upset then the 3rd hit and sank the her. (ya one torpedo I was surprised). dumb duds, but I got her none the less.

04-26-12, 01:01 AM	#8
Tinman764 Chief Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: U-32's Wintergarten Posts: 325 Downloads: 177 Uploads: 0	Yep, not the 1st time I've had a similar situation with the Nelson aswell - out of 2 attacks and 8 fish only 2 actually reached her, 1 missed and the other bounced off. As for last nights attack - I was so pleased with myself after intercepting the convoy at exactly the time and place I expected it to be that I guess I got a bit greedy and took shots at around 75-80% AOB on both ships. Oh well live to fight another day!

04-26-12, 07:16 AM	#11
Osmium Steele Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Upper midwest USA Posts: 1,101 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	How bout firing your last two eels at a modern tanker, in 15 M/S seas, watching them bounce, and as you are waiting for the convoy to cruise on by, you notice something trailing them, yet it doesn't appear on sonar. When I hit F12 and take a look, since I cannot hit them anyway, I find not one but TWO 44000 ton Aquitania cruise liners, doing 1 knot, sitting very low in the water. They both succumb to the high sea states within an hour. 88k just gone. __________________ In the month of July of the year 1348, between the feasts of St. Benedict and of St. Swithin, a strange thing came upon England... My U297 build thread