Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[mapuc]

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[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Skybird

[Frankfurter Rundschau] [I]The USA has bought 81 Soviet-designed fighter planes and bombers at auction.

Maybe The Republic of Texas is expanding their Air Force. Hmm, wonder when they changed the name from "Confederate Air Force" to Commemorative Air Force? The year 2000? Weak! Kilroy's Air Force would have been so much better!

https://commemorativeairforce.org/



If the USA ditches the A-10 I hope Texas buys them all.

[mapuc]

Markus

[Skybird]

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Continuing the war and the militarization of society and economy as precondition to prevent economic collapse. That goes at the direction I always was imagining when doubting the Russian collapse is so imminent that it would play a role for the Ukraine war. All you hopefuls: it won't, live with it. The war will not to be decided by a Russian economic collapse. Or an internal rebellion against Putin. Or his predecessor not being even more viscous than Putin himself was. Or the fairy queen turning things for the better.

Russian economy and society will pay a heavy price for all this, I never doubted that. But I always said that this will not happen before plenty of water has flowed from the rivers into the sea. The Soviet Union was economically done already in the early 70s at the latest - and then still kept on floating until 1989, thats a two decades split. Dont bet money on that you will see it happening again during the rest of your lifespan. It could happen earlier than I expect, yes: due to a black swan, for example. But I don't give it a high probability at all. "Hope is not a strategy", said Israeli General Sharon.

[mapuc]

Markus

[Skybird]

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I do not see how Ukraine can throw the rudder around again. The US aid comes too late. I think and they write the fall of Tchassyv Yar is only a question of time. I have doubts that Charkiv can hold out, it will either fall to Russia - or suffer the fate of cities like Mariupol, Bakhmut and others: getting completely destroyed. Odessa is at risk, too. The city was claimed to be more Russian than any other outside Crimea before the war, and see how Putin nevertheless treats it.

Any talk of a Ukrainian offensive in 2025 to me currently is nothing but daydreaming. The heavier population and economic weight of Russia now mercilessly makes itself felt. There is no escape from the math. Plus Russia has allies that are much less hesitent and scrupolous than the West is towards Ukraine. North Korea. China. Sanction breakers from the West. Big states like India, Brazil, South Africa who take at least a desinterested stand on Ukraine, and do busienss with Russia. Minimum 80% of the global population is not with Ukraine in this war.

Things look very, very, very bad. I assume this summer Ukraine will not get away from a Russian offensive as "cheaply" as before.

[mapuc]

Even though I have a sceptic view on the situation in Ukraine I keep up a hope for the best.

A totally free Ukraine...no way! The Ukrainians does not have the manpower and/or the material to retake the occupied areas.

The question who pop-up is:

Who of these two combatant will first demand a negotiation ?

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Even though I have a sceptic view on the situation in Ukraine I keep up a hope for the best.

A totally free Ukraine...no way! The Ukrainians does not have the manpower and/or the material to retake the occupied areas.

The question who pop-up is:

Who of these two combatant will first demand a negotiation ?

Markus

I see Ukraine sincerely trying to start peace talks (Switzerland) Türkiye tried it in 2022 China later came with a peace plan, but it is always Russia that declines any peace Russia wants a surrender (unconditional) of Ukraine. Ukraine tried after 1917 to become independent, on 18 March 1921 Ukraine lost that status the Bolsheviks and certainly Stalin never forgave Ukraine for this, resulting in millions of dead later (Holodomor). Putin has the same he needs Ukraine else Russia will not survive in the future Ukraine was and is important for Russia, without it Russia cannot compete with the West. Without Ukraine the USSR would have collapsed decades earlier Russia does not want the whole only eastern Ukraine they think they can control that the west of Ukraine is to western that will never accept Russia as ruler. Think he is wrong think the whole is certainly with this invasion so anti-Russian this will be another Afghanistan again for Russia. Ukraine partisans fought the USSR for more than 5 years after WWII, the Crimea was Khrushchev peace offer.

[mapuc]

Serious accusation I must say



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[Skybird]

The latest assessment by Colonel Reisner.


https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/...en&_x_tr_hl=de

[mapuc]

This person have an another view on the matter.



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Here's another person with a positive view on the Ukrainian situation

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[mapuc]

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