New GFX card install - Page 2

nikbear · 01-20-11, 05:37 AM

The fan is behaving itself,ramps up on start then quickly quieten's down,thankfully

Thank you to everyone for their help

Herr-Berbunch · 01-20-11, 05:39 AM

Glad to have you working. My next suggestion was to swap your GTX260 for my GTS250...

Still could if you have ANY doubts about your card!

Feuer Frei! · 01-20-11, 05:52 AM

Another happy Subsim customer

nikbear · 01-20-11, 06:32 AM

I spoke to soon,its just cut out on me

seems to run for 20 mins or so then wham,shuts down

Heat problem?? I know these 200 series cards run hot,but its in a Coolermaster HAF932

Shouldn't really be getting that toasty should it

Jan Kyster · 01-20-11, 07:21 AM

nVidea...

I mean...

please have a look in your windows logbook. There is most certainly an entry where you can see the cause of the shutdown.

If it's heat related, you really should let the system stay off for at least 15 minutes. Shutdowns occurs at around 115 degree Celcius...

It also may cause the thermal grease to go hard as concrete, so better keep an eye on temp in the future.

Fans are cheap btw.
Add an extra for output and a couple for inlet is recommended... as is watercooling...

nikbear · 01-24-11, 04:02 AM

Well Im back from travelling and its time to repair the damage,Im thinking its a driver problem,though not sure,still staying on for 10 mins the BSD

Can't even get it to stay on in safe mode

Can't get to a restore point because for some reason the accessories tab in the start menu is missing

Whatever has caused this has really made a mess of my windows install

Really don't know what to do for the best really

HunterICX · 01-24-11, 04:35 AM

Apart from the missing tab, is there anything else missing or graphical glitched in windows?

what you could try is in the 10 minute window is to get rid of the driver (windows control panel add/remove software) and boot up the PC without grahpics driver and have it turned on for a bit and check if everything is alright in windows, when you still get a BSOD or weird glitches I would say your Windows installation is messed and a reinstallation of windows would be needed.

If not and you think windows is Ok you might want to try a different graphics driver version and see if it works and/or rerun that everything Hardware wise is Ok.

When the problem still isn't resolved....I would say bring it to someone you know or a PC repair shop or something to have it looked after.

good luck,
HunterICX

nikbear · 01-24-11, 04:59 AM

I was thinking of doing just that actually,totally removing any Nvidia drivers and seeing if I could keep XP stable,if not would the repair feature on the XP disc work,never tried it before

jumpy · 01-24-11, 06:07 AM

Repeat after me.... windows mantra... format and reinstall...format and reinstall...format and reinstall.

You can try the xp 'repair' option on the install disk, but don't get your hopes up (it has never worked for me).

Do you have OEM XP disk, or a 'Retail boxed' version? I only ask as the OEM lacks certain formatting capabilities, like preparing a new and totally blank drive: it's why the OEM disk cost about 100 quid and the retail boxed version (of XP) runs to several hundred.... at least when I bought my copy of XP pro.

Beware! if you 'remove all of your nvidia drivers' be careful that your mobo is not an nvidia chipset too, otherwise when you uninstall then reboot, you'll have some 'unable to locate disc' error. Bit of a schoolboy error, but I've done just that in the past... the driver said nvidia, so I removed it, not knowing that it was the motherboard drivers when what I should have removed was the display drivers haha

If you do format the thing and reinstall windows from scratch, make sure the install works first before trying to install the new gfx card. Might help isolate the trouble. And as said, try a different display driver than the one you tried before.
Out of interest, have you added an after-market cooler to your GFX card? Like you can do with CPU coolers?

It really helps to have more than one hdd so you can separate your OS from your data/files/backups etc. Makes a format and reinstall sooooo much easier and faster.

Jan Kyster · 01-24-11, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikbear

I was thinking of doing just that actually,totally removing any Nvidia drivers and seeing if I could keep XP stable,if not would the repair feature on the XP disc work,never tried it before

Did you find the reason for system shutdown in your Windows logs?

If it was heat related, then your thermal paste may indeed be ruined... and hence continue to cause shutdowns, since it's unable to divert heat away from gpu anymore...

But from the sound of it, you may have more issues...

nikbear · 01-25-11, 08:05 AM

Ive finally managed to get the puter up and running,and stable,but using the old card and an older set of drivers

Seems that the newest set just don't like my setup,just going to try and run the new card with these old drivers and see if that works

nikbear · 01-25-11, 03:23 PM

Yep,touch wood,its working fine,was the 'New' drivers that screwed my system up

Thanks for everyone's help

01-20-11, 05:37 AM	#16
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	The fan is behaving itself,ramps up on start then quickly quieten's down,thankfully Thank you to everyone for their help __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-20-11, 05:39 AM	#17
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Glad to have you working. My next suggestion was to swap your GTX260 for my GTS250... Still could if you have ANY doubts about your card! __________________

01-20-11, 05:52 AM	#18
Feuer Frei! Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Valhalla Posts: 5,295 Downloads: 141 Uploads: 17	Another happy Subsim customer __________________ "History is the lies that the victors agree on"- Napoleon LINK TO MY SH 3 MODS

01-20-11, 06:32 AM	#19
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I spoke to soon,its just cut out on me seems to run for 20 mins or so then wham,shuts down Heat problem?? I know these 200 series cards run hot,but its in a Coolermaster HAF932 Shouldn't really be getting that toasty should it __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-24-11, 04:02 AM	#21
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Well Im back from travelling and its time to repair the damage,Im thinking its a driver problem,though not sure,still staying on for 10 mins the BSD Can't even get it to stay on in safe mode Can't get to a restore point because for some reason the accessories tab in the start menu is missing Whatever has caused this has really made a mess of my windows install Really don't know what to do for the best really __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-20-11, 07:21 AM	#20
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	nVidea... I mean... please have a look in your windows logbook. There is most certainly an entry where you can see the cause of the shutdown. If it's heat related, you really should let the system stay off for at least 15 minutes. Shutdowns occurs at around 115 degree Celcius... It also may cause the thermal grease to go hard as concrete, so better keep an eye on temp in the future. Fans are cheap btw. Add an extra for output and a couple for inlet is recommended... as is watercooling...

01-24-11, 04:35 AM	#22
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Apart from the missing tab, is there anything else missing or graphical glitched in windows? what you could try is in the 10 minute window is to get rid of the driver (windows control panel add/remove software) and boot up the PC without grahpics driver and have it turned on for a bit and check if everything is alright in windows, when you still get a BSOD or weird glitches I would say your Windows installation is messed and a reinstallation of windows would be needed. If not and you think windows is Ok you might want to try a different graphics driver version and see if it works and/or rerun that everything Hardware wise is Ok. When the problem still isn't resolved....I would say bring it to someone you know or a PC repair shop or something to have it looked after. good luck, HunterICX __________________

01-24-11, 04:59 AM	#23
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	I was thinking of doing just that actually,totally removing any Nvidia drivers and seeing if I could keep XP stable,if not would the repair feature on the XP disc work,never tried it before __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-24-11, 06:07 AM	#24
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Repeat after me.... windows mantra... format and reinstall...format and reinstall...format and reinstall. You can try the xp 'repair' option on the install disk, but don't get your hopes up (it has never worked for me). Do you have OEM XP disk, or a 'Retail boxed' version? I only ask as the OEM lacks certain formatting capabilities, like preparing a new and totally blank drive: it's why the OEM disk cost about 100 quid and the retail boxed version (of XP) runs to several hundred.... at least when I bought my copy of XP pro. Beware! if you 'remove all of your nvidia drivers' be careful that your mobo is not an nvidia chipset too, otherwise when you uninstall then reboot, you'll have some 'unable to locate disc' error. Bit of a schoolboy error, but I've done just that in the past... the driver said nvidia, so I removed it, not knowing that it was the motherboard drivers when what I should have removed was the display drivers haha If you do format the thing and reinstall windows from scratch, make sure the install works first before trying to install the new gfx card. Might help isolate the trouble. And as said, try a different display driver than the one you tried before. Out of interest, have you added an after-market cooler to your GFX card? Like you can do with CPU coolers? It really helps to have more than one hdd so you can separate your OS from your data/files/backups etc. Makes a format and reinstall sooooo much easier and faster. __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

01-25-11, 08:05 AM	#26
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Ive finally managed to get the puter up and running,and stable,but using the old card and an older set of drivers Seems that the newest set just don't like my setup,just going to try and run the new card with these old drivers and see if that works __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.

01-25-11, 03:23 PM	#27
nikbear Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northampton,UK Posts: 1,859 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Yep,touch wood,its working fine,was the 'New' drivers that screwed my system up Thanks for everyone's help __________________ 'It is not surely known when the grey wolf shall come upon the seat of the gods' Ericksmal.