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Old 02-09-11, 01:09 PM   #16
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Was looking for something else and came across a Saitek, some pics: http://www.google.com/images?q=Saite...=1424&bih=1027

Saitek store: http://store.gameshark.net/PC_Gamepads/232


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Old 02-09-11, 01:09 PM   #17
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Does the non-FF Evo have the issue with DCS:BS? Strictly FF related right?
Have only heard of the FF one causing problems.

Here's a video showing the problem with DCS:BS


Tho, my problems was even worse in that there was almost zero input in-game when trying to trim. I would use the trimmer (either the tapping method or hold & release) and once I let go of the stick the Kamov would go nuts.

There was some other joystick with similar problems too, think it was the Saitek ST290.
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Old 02-09-11, 01:34 PM   #18
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Thanks guys, I new I could rely on Hunter and Jan for sensible answers (nearly!). Two out of eight replies - not a bad rate here

I've got my old Sidewinder somewhere, I'll have to dig that out for the time being. At least I have some desk space back, and some cash
The sidewinder software does not work with windows 7 so you can't map the keys. I've been using a Saitek Cyborg EVO since then and it's OK, but not as good as my Sidewinder is/was.
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Old 02-09-11, 04:07 PM   #19
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Still using my Sidewinder here.
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Old 02-09-11, 04:13 PM   #20
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Still using my Sidewinder here.
Me too. This thread is pretty useful to me, as I am thinking of upgrading in the effort to bring some more utility to my FSX experience without spending a ton of cash or having to rearrange my desktop setup.
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Old 02-09-11, 04:23 PM   #21
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The sidewinder software does not work with windows 7...
Several links for Sidewinder/Windows 7 confirms that it works:

"I installed my old Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 on our new laptop running Windows 7 Home Premium with no trouble at all. All I had to do was connect it to the laptop & turn the laptop on. It first identified the new USB device, then indicated it was installing appropriate drivers (from the harddrive or from the Web, I don't know which). A small window announcing that the drivers had been successfully installed then popped up. (The "In Process" window failed to close by itself - I had to hit the "Close" button myself.) I then went to the Control Panel & looked at (I think!) "USB Devices", & Lo & Behold, there it was! "Sidewinder Force Feedback 2". I was even able to get into a calibration window that allowed me to verify the buttons, Z-Axis control, Paddle control, etc., all courtesy of Windows 7. I then started Jane's World War II Fighters (an 11-year old video game which I had installed the day before) & used the Sidewinder to play the game. Shoot, it even provided force feedback during the game!

Upshot: You shouldn't need to install any drivers for the joystick - Windows 7 knows!"


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/40...dback-joystick

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/...ision-joystick

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Old 02-14-11, 12:18 AM   #22
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It isn't really small, but its not as large as some of them out there.... the Logitech Extreme 3d Pro. No force feedback (cuts down on the bulkiness), 12 buttons (programmable), hotas hat and throttle. You can pick one up for under 30 bucks on Amazon.....

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Old 02-14-11, 08:54 AM   #23
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Is the FF 3D Pro really any bigger than the Extreme 3D Pro? Looking at the photos of them they look the same size.
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Old 02-14-11, 09:24 AM   #24
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I think my MS Sidewinder is the Precision Pro - so no FF - which seems to be the bit that has compatibility issues with W7. Still got to find where I've put it - cupboard or garage!
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That must be the difference. It's not that it won't work as a basic joystick, you just don't get the full use. Too bad as it's probably just a software update that never got written.
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Old 02-14-11, 06:03 PM   #26
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Precision Pro...

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...0-790bb6de7baf

http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/com...lers&os=64-bit

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Old 02-14-11, 06:41 PM   #27
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