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View Poll Results: Will the new DRM affect your SH5 purchase | |||
"Makes no difference to me" | 191 | 15.44% | |
I'll cancel my pre-order & wait | 148 | 11.96% | |
Wait for UBI to remove the online DRM | 761 | 61.52% | |
Not going to at all now. | 137 | 11.08% | |
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01-29-10, 05:52 AM | #211 |
Swabbie
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I have no intention of "buying" SH5, unless UBI change it's new DRM policy (not likely).
Now is the time to make a stand. Vote with your wallet!!!! If nobody is up for the task, then why are we arguing about this in the first place? |
01-29-10, 07:45 AM | #212 | |
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Keep the pressure , no quarters until DRM surrenders
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01-29-10, 08:02 AM | #213 |
XO
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So just so I understand. This is not like Empire: Total War, wich needs a Steam authentication once, and the game will play without an internet connection. Not that I've played it since, too many trademark features from the series are gone, comparable to not having several U-boat types and 1944 and 1945.
But apart from that, SH5 will need a continious internet connection instead of just once for authentication? A friend of mine (with a laptop) bought Empire and (wireless) authenticated at my place, then he could play at home, without internet. Empire was a disaster, but as I understand it now, SH5 will always need internet? Not just for authentication or DLC. So one hickup and wammo, game crashes, stops? Surely that cannot be the case. Steam isn't that bad, although hell for modding, but at least one can play the game offline. And won't this DRM check our version, so say we have a couple of mods, it will detect it as an 'illegal' version? I have a bad feeling about this. I'm not being deliberately negative, it's just that I've seen too many bad examples in gameland. This doesn't bode well.
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01-29-10, 08:07 AM | #214 |
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Yup, you need internet connection all the time to play.
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01-29-10, 08:21 AM | #215 |
XO
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Thanks, I see. Well, that's the nail that settles it. My connection is great but if only out of principle for others: That's a no-go
And don't worry about future SH-installments or expansions, and/or our cancellations bothering their balance. Empire sold like crazy. The PR hit the Creative Assembly and Sega took by the criticism is quite substantial though.
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01-29-10, 08:43 AM | #216 |
Electrician's Mate
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It seems Silent Hunter series ends here. One minute silence, please.
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01-29-10, 09:25 AM | #217 |
Captain
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Documentary about French submarine Casabianca:
http://videos.tf1.fr/reportages/des-...r-4461601.html Go to 21:00 and see what the guys are doing when off-duty |
01-29-10, 09:47 AM | #218 |
Pacific Aces Dev Team
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22.650 $ lost by UBI already
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01-29-10, 09:54 AM | #219 |
Maverick Modder
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01-29-10, 09:57 AM | #220 |
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It's the product of people who arn't buying and game price.
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01-29-10, 10:01 AM | #221 |
Torpedoman
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Was gonna get SH5 as soon as it came out but with this Digital Restriction Management in place....'fraid not.
As some others have mentioned what happens if you install a mod,does that mean your game will be seen as an unauthorized version and won't function ? Do the suits at Ubi not see what the modders have done with SH3 & 4,how they have fixed a lot of problems,added new content and taken the game so much further and have given us superb subsims with far greater longevity than the stock game ? I really hope Ubi take note of all the negativity expressed throughout the whole community and rethink their whole DRM stance and present us with a sim that lets us sail without the need for a net connection,allows the modders in to do their thing and allows us to move forward unhindered. However if not,I still have SH3 & 4 in all their modded goodness to keep me afloat a long time yet. One proud dinosaur Kremmen |
01-29-10, 11:38 AM | #222 |
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I have a continuous internet connection, so it wouldn't really affect me... but (and I know this might be hard for some people to understand) I'm not just only concerned about ME! There are a lot of people who this will negatively affect, and for that reason, I'm not supporting this with my wallet.
So many people take the stance of "get with the times." But that's like saying that I have to have an iPod in order to play my new guitar. Sure, a good percentage of musicians have an iPod, but that doesn't justify making my new instrument useless unless I "get with the times" and pay for something that isn't really necessary to make it work.
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01-29-10, 11:42 AM | #223 |
Watch
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I'll won't buy (been playing since SH1). I prefer games that I have on my shelf... that way there's no need to hope for an ICT miracle (100% access to a remote server guaranteed for a lifetime!!!!).
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01-29-10, 11:43 AM | #224 |
Torpedoman
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I'll be sincere, I have never been an activist in this sense. I accepted and even welcomed Steam, and I'm aware that the vast majority of gamers nowadays have an internet connection 24 / 7, so that kind of activation has never stopped me from making a purchase.
But there are limits. As other users have pointed out, Steam is a different thing altogether. You have to activate online once, and check for patches now and then, with a little connection here and there to refresh its memory. It's also the leading online distribution service, with rock-solid servers that have never let me down. But Ubi? Give me a break. I find it annoying enough to need a different account for every different service every different company ends up making, only to remove it some time later. Most games I have played that went for online DRM ended up removing it, except for Steam-based ones, when they noticed that they just couldn't handle the kind of server uptime required for it. I'll never understand why every company tries and tries when there's already a service of choice and they are not going to beat it. If anyone remembers the shoddy port of GTA IV to the PC, it requred authenticating in THREE different services (Steam, Windows Live and Rockstar Cafe) before playing. Ubi's servers, login services and matchmaking apps for multiplayer games have worked pretty miserably for me in the past, and such a service simply can't compete with Steam. It's bound to fail at some point. But of course they couldn't stop there: they also want to host our savegames, and to check for activation upon every launch. This kind of draconic DRM kept me from purchasing Knigths of the Sky. Even their goddang demo had it. It also kept me from buying X3 until they ate humble pie and moved to Steam, where I recently bought it. I'm a very big fan of the Silent Hunter series, but this time I'm not buying until they remove the DRM, make it more reasonable or switch to Steam like everyone else. |
01-29-10, 12:02 PM | #225 |
Weps
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Wait for UBI to remove the online DRM!
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