Lock up issues, anyone ever had this?

Task Force · 07-06-11, 09:38 PM

SO, Im having issues with my PC, in games it at times will lock up for awhile, and not work, till i either jam Ctrl Alt Delete enough/wait it out.

Happens in game, or in desktop, usual with firefox/steam.

Its now software, as ive reformatted my PC.

My CPU/graphics card run at good temps, so thats not the issue, though other things in there, i dont know.

FIREWALL · 07-07-11, 12:13 AM

Ram as next guess.

Task Force · 07-07-11, 01:15 AM

Yea, i was talkin with arc earlier, that was one of the things we came up with.

What im thinking of trying next.

kiwi_2005 · 07-07-11, 03:59 AM

Sometimes the culprit can be your sound card, though you never mentioned odd sound noises before the lockups so most likely not the problem. My lockups were cause by the sound card after trying different drivers, windows default driver, switching PCI slots & still getting lockups I then took the card out and enabled the onboard sound, problem solved. Though I wouldn't say I solved the problem more I got rid of the problem by removing the card. lol

Task Force · 07-07-11, 05:40 PM

think ill change out the ram, see if that helps.

Task Force · 07-09-11, 01:04 AM

OK, so, new news

Ive ran some stress tests, to see if i can find the problem.

Ran a stress test on ram/CPU, for 2 hours, nothing failed.

Ran a stress test (Furmark) on my GPU for 5 mins, only lagged in the beginning abit, but other than that fine.

Ram a memory test, found no errors

PSU is brand new, and is more than what i need

Windows was reformatted, and installed afiew weeks ago to see if that was the issue, no cigar.

There are no heating issues i can see. GPU/CPU run at good temps.

And im running out of ideas (figured id list everything ive done out)

Guess ill try the ram...

As i noticed i have 2 sets in there, a PNY set, and a Samsung set. maybe one of them failed.

Task Force · 07-09-11, 02:43 PM

I don't believe its software, as i cleared the hard drive of everything, and did a complete new install of windows with nothing else.

still couldnt hurt though.

Arclight · 07-09-11, 05:19 PM

Mkay, so to recap:

Take out all the ram and try 1 pair.
Try the other pair.
Swap to old graphics card.

Put the RAM in the matching color slots for dual-channel. Likely slot 0+2 and 1+3. (only use one of those since you're working with 2 modules)

Task Force · 07-11-11, 02:21 PM

Indeed ^

So I did all this, and have came to the conclusion that it is my motherboard.

Task Force · 08-26-11, 01:27 PM

Ok, so. I have replaced the Motherboard, cpu, and ram. It happens VERY rarely now, but still is there in some games.

The GPU is fine, and the PSU is fine. So the only thing that could be the issue still is the HD, or something with software.

FIREWALL · 08-26-11, 02:22 PM

You've darn near built a new computer. Could there be a corrupted file when you play the game that everything locks up.

Was grasping at straws.

. Scrolled down and reread your first post slowly and closely and saw the"Desktop part" also.

So there went my lame brain game theory which I knew was stupid after I typed it.

Typeing with one hand I'm to tired to delete it Sorry.

Since my one hand is tired out I'll give it a rest an read ALL your guys posts slowly and see if I see a clue.

Regards FIREWALL

Task Force · 08-26-11, 02:31 PM

yea, its quite odd.

as i have these issues in TF2, and sometimes in world of tanks, tropico, but i put in crysis and run it full and it runs fine.

* specs

CPU I5 2500k

mobo Asrock Extreme 4 Gen 3

RAM 8 Gb kingston set

HD Western digital Green

powersupply whos info other than wattage i forgot 850Watt

GPU GTX 480

CaptainHaplo · 08-26-11, 10:06 PM

When you CAD the pc on a hang, check the performance. Is ram use higher than expected? Swap file usage abnormal? Any process sucking up CPU time (like AV)? Reads or Writes to the hard drive pending/failing?

Try setting your swap file manuall to 2x your installed ram. Or move it to another partion temporarily. Often, Windows tries to dynamically adjust it and sometimes hoses the whole thing. Also - a full scan (including surface check) of the HD may be in order.

Reece · 08-28-11, 06:32 PM

Although the video card is new do you have it over clocked? have you got an old one to try, I have had new ones die within a few months of purchase.

07-06-11, 09:38 PM	#1
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Lock up issues, anyone ever had this? SO, Im having issues with my PC, in games it at times will lock up for awhile, and not work, till i either jam Ctrl Alt Delete enough/wait it out. Happens in game, or in desktop, usual with firefox/steam. Its now software, as ive reformatted my PC. My CPU/graphics card run at good temps, so thats not the issue, though other things in there, i dont know. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-07-11, 12:13 AM	#2
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Ram as next guess. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-07-11, 01:15 AM	#3
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Yea, i was talkin with arc earlier, that was one of the things we came up with. What im thinking of trying next. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-07-11, 03:59 AM	#4
kiwi_2005 Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aeoteroa Posts: 7,382 Downloads: 223 Uploads: 1	Sometimes the culprit can be your sound card, though you never mentioned odd sound noises before the lockups so most likely not the problem. My lockups were cause by the sound card after trying different drivers, windows default driver, switching PCI slots & still getting lockups I then took the card out and enabled the onboard sound, problem solved. Though I wouldn't say I solved the problem more I got rid of the problem by removing the card. lol __________________ RIP kiwi_2005 Those who can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others.

07-07-11, 05:40 PM	#5
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	think ill change out the ram, see if that helps. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-09-11, 01:04 AM	#6
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	OK, so, new news Ive ran some stress tests, to see if i can find the problem. Ran a stress test on ram/CPU, for 2 hours, nothing failed. Ran a stress test (Furmark) on my GPU for 5 mins, only lagged in the beginning abit, but other than that fine. Ram a memory test, found no errors PSU is brand new, and is more than what i need Windows was reformatted, and installed afiew weeks ago to see if that was the issue, no cigar. There are no heating issues i can see. GPU/CPU run at good temps. And im running out of ideas (figured id list everything ive done out) Guess ill try the ram... As i noticed i have 2 sets in there, a PNY set, and a Samsung set. maybe one of them failed. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-09-11, 02:43 PM	#7
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I don't believe its software, as i cleared the hard drive of everything, and did a complete new install of windows with nothing else. still couldnt hurt though. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

07-09-11, 05:19 PM	#8
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Mkay, so to recap: Take out all the ram and try 1 pair. Try the other pair. Swap to old graphics card. Put the RAM in the matching color slots for dual-channel. Likely slot 0+2 and 1+3. (only use one of those since you're working with 2 modules) __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

07-11-11, 02:21 PM	#9
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Indeed ^ So I did all this, and have came to the conclusion that it is my motherboard. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-26-11, 01:27 PM	#10
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Ok, so. I have replaced the Motherboard, cpu, and ram. It happens VERY rarely now, but still is there in some games. The GPU is fine, and the PSU is fine. So the only thing that could be the issue still is the HD, or something with software. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-26-11, 02:22 PM	#11
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	You've darn near built a new computer. Could there be a corrupted file when you play the game that everything locks up. Was grasping at straws. . Scrolled down and reread your first post slowly and closely and saw the"Desktop part" also. So there went my lame brain game theory which I knew was stupid after I typed it. Typeing with one hand I'm to tired to delete it Sorry. Since my one hand is tired out I'll give it a rest an read ALL your guys posts slowly and see if I see a clue. Regards FIREWALL __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

08-26-11, 02:31 PM	#12
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	yea, its quite odd. as i have these issues in TF2, and sometimes in world of tanks, tropico, but i put in crysis and run it full and it runs fine. * specs CPU I5 2500k mobo Asrock Extreme 4 Gen 3 RAM 8 Gb kingston set HD Western digital Green powersupply whos info other than wattage i forgot 850Watt GPU GTX 480 __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

08-26-11, 10:06 PM	#13
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	When you CAD the pc on a hang, check the performance. Is ram use higher than expected? Swap file usage abnormal? Any process sucking up CPU time (like AV)? Reads or Writes to the hard drive pending/failing? Try setting your swap file manuall to 2x your installed ram. Or move it to another partion temporarily. Often, Windows tries to dynamically adjust it and sometimes hoses the whole thing. Also - a full scan (including surface check) of the HD may be in order. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

08-28-11, 06:32 PM	#14
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 32,792 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Although the video card is new do you have it over clocked? have you got an old one to try, I have had new ones die within a few months of purchase. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*