IF you were going to buy a new video card it would be??

goldwing · 03-21-10, 03:22 PM

My first post here so be easy on me

OK i havent played pc games in years. My last time being flight sims like falcon4 and janes f/a18 etc. But when i saw a subsim i had to give it a try. My problem is low framerates and sometimes a crash and i hate using low settings for anything let alone a sim with the detail SH5 has. I run windows 7 64bit with a intel quad core 2.4, 2 gigs ram with a evga gt8800 that runs no hotter then 49 degrees F. I also have the asus XONARHDAV1.3 hdmi audio card because this pc is my main htpc for blurays. Anyway all drivers are up to date now which helped alot. My question is i have a friend willing to sell me a
evga GeForce GTS 250 superclocked and was wondering if that would help my case at all or should i go with something newer?
Thanks

03-21-10, 03:50 PM

its my understanding that the 200 series cards are a very minor improvement over the 8800 9800 cards (they all share the same G92 GPU) so i wouldnt bother switching for what will barely be a noticable change if any over what you have now.

HanSolo78 · 03-21-10, 03:56 PM

Performance improvement from Nvidia 9800gt (8800gt) to gtx285 would be 50%.
From 9800gt(8800gt) to Ati HD5870 improvement about 70% and upgrade from 9800gt (8800gt) to new upcoming NVidia gtx480 approximately about 90-100%!

All numbers refer to 1650x1050 screen resolution!

Ark · 03-21-10, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webster

its my understanding that the 200 series cards are a very minor improvement over the 8800 9800 cards (they all share the same G92 GPU) so i wouldnt bother switching for what will barely be a noticable change if any over what you have now.

My GTX 285 thinks otherwise. lol

Or are you referring to GT/S series cards?

The OP should wait and see how the new Nvidia "Fermi" comares with ATI's most recent release as well as ATI's "coming soon" 2GB versions of the 5800 series ad 4GB versions of the 5900. However, the "Fermi" is suspected to only yield about a 10% increase in performace over ATI's latest offering ad will cost more (not to mention the power requirement....omg). Lastly, nobody is sure of the "10%" Fermi has over ATI is oly in certain circumstances. Either way, wait for Nvidia's latest product, see how that performs, then wait to see what ATI's response it (either price or hardware wise).

Kresge · 03-21-10, 04:07 PM

GTX cards are the current high performance cards; GTS are more or less cheap upgrades/repackaging of old cards.

Check Tom's Hardware site for charts showing actual performance levels of Nvidia and ATi cards. Makes it easy to sort through.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...s-cards,1.html

Ark · 03-21-10, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kresge

GTX cards are the current high performance cards; GTS are more or less cheap upgrades/repackaging of old cards.

Check Tom's Hardware site for charts showing actual performance levels of Nvidia and ATi cards. Makes it easy to sort through.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...s-cards,1.html

Go to Hardocp.com as well. It's one of the best sites on the web for straight truth when it comes to system hardware performance.

With regards to GTX cards being the curret "high performance" cards...that's sort of gone the way of the do-do bird with the release of the ATI 5870. It pretty much beats up on the lastest GTX cards from Nvidia outside of the GTX 295....and the ATI 5970 beats up on that one for the most part. lol

CaptainHaplo · 03-21-10, 04:40 PM

Ya Bilge Rat - ya posted this in the wrong forum! (Should be in the pc section) I am just giving you a hard time - let me be the first to say - WELCOME ABOARD!!!

With that said, the 250 is the low end of the GT cards. Since your talking about a GTS and not a GTX - I would have to say your likely better off avoiding it - depending on how much your friend wants for it. A new GTS 250 is around $110 bucks - but given your current rig I have to say the 250 is still going to be the bottleneck.

The GTX line (from 260 -295) is solid for gaming now and in the near future. Of course - the 295 is more future proof than the 260. Overclocked 260's run about 200 bucks now. Prices rise from there.

Bottom line - your not likely to see a huge improvement from the 8800 to a GTS 250. There would be some - but if your talking more than 30-40 bucks - I would say no to it.

Again - Welcome Aboard!

BigBANGtheory · 03-21-10, 05:10 PM

You should wait for the Nvidia 480 release really, currently best bang for your buck is the Ati 5850.

03-21-10, 05:16 PM

I have the GTX295 but be careful about sli profiles.
It is essentially 2 gpu's sandwiched together so needs an sli profile to work.
SH5 does not so it is currently only running of one of the cards.
Wait for the new fermi cards.

Lzs von swe · 03-21-10, 05:20 PM

Hi and welcome goldwing

The GTS 250 is pretty much a upgraded 9800 card, which is pretty much a upgraded 8800 card. If you don´t want to spend a lot of money go for a GTX 260 896Mb. It will be a noticeable performance boost from the 8800.

03-21-10, 05:25 PM

If you dont mind using ATi the HD5850 is clearly the best performance per dollar around atm, not only that it is faster than any single gpu card available from Nvidia.

trust me, I have 2!

Arclight · 03-21-10, 06:24 PM

Actually, the 5870 would be the fastest single GPU card.

Trust me, I have none.

Current pick would be GTX275 for me, but waiting to see what Nvidia has lined up.

ironkross · 03-21-10, 06:56 PM

I'm currently using an Nvidia GeForce 9800GT(Silent Hunter runs great on it) until the 480/470 is available. Then I'll use the 9800 in the Physx slot.

richardphat · 03-22-10, 12:42 AM

HD 5750
I planned and bought it recently.
Reason is budget limit, because I couldnt pay over 230+ for a new video card and a new power supply.
I did the right choice.
The HD 5750 works fine for me.

The_Phoenix · 03-22-10, 05:56 AM

Talk about some ATI fanboys in here

. From personal expierience an upgrade to the 200 gtx series would be a huge difference. if u want to wait for the still not released gtx 300 (heck if u even want to get it because its gonna be expensive) then theres no point in getting a 5000 series radeon card. At least something better then that 8800, i have a superclocked 9800 GT from EVGA and i couldnt be more happy.

oh yeah and i run SH5 maxed out.

03-21-10, 03:22 PM	#1
goldwing Watch Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	IF you were going to buy a new video card it would be?? My first post here so be easy on me OK i havent played pc games in years. My last time being flight sims like falcon4 and janes f/a18 etc. But when i saw a subsim i had to give it a try. My problem is low framerates and sometimes a crash and i hate using low settings for anything let alone a sim with the detail SH5 has. I run windows 7 64bit with a intel quad core 2.4, 2 gigs ram with a evga gt8800 that runs no hotter then 49 degrees F. I also have the asus XONARHDAV1.3 hdmi audio card because this pc is my main htpc for blurays. Anyway all drivers are up to date now which helped alot. My question is i have a friend willing to sell me a evga GeForce GTS 250 superclocked and was wondering if that would help my case at all or should i go with something newer? Thanks

03-21-10, 03:56 PM	#3
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	Performance improvement from Nvidia 9800gt (8800gt) to gtx285 would be 50%. From 9800gt(8800gt) to Ati HD5870 improvement about 70% and upgrade from 9800gt (8800gt) to new upcoming NVidia gtx480 approximately about 90-100%! All numbers refer to 1650x1050 screen resolution! __________________

03-21-10, 04:07 PM	#5
Kresge Engineer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The Motor City Posts: 209 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	GTX cards are the current high performance cards; GTS are more or less cheap upgrades/repackaging of old cards. Check Tom's Hardware site for charts showing actual performance levels of Nvidia and ATi cards. Makes it easy to sort through. http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/g...s-cards,1.html __________________ ". . . sailors do not fancy living underwater without breathing in sunshine occasionally." Commodore Joseph Smith commenting on the USS Monitor

03-21-10, 04:40 PM	#7
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Ya Bilge Rat - ya posted this in the wrong forum! (Should be in the pc section) I am just giving you a hard time - let me be the first to say - WELCOME ABOARD!!! With that said, the 250 is the low end of the GT cards. Since your talking about a GTS and not a GTX - I would have to say your likely better off avoiding it - depending on how much your friend wants for it. A new GTS 250 is around $110 bucks - but given your current rig I have to say the 250 is still going to be the bottleneck. The GTX line (from 260 -295) is solid for gaming now and in the near future. Of course - the 295 is more future proof than the 260. Overclocked 260's run about 200 bucks now. Prices rise from there. Bottom line - your not likely to see a huge improvement from the 8800 to a GTS 250. There would be some - but if your talking more than 30-40 bucks - I would say no to it. Again - Welcome Aboard! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-21-10, 05:20 PM	#10
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Hi and welcome goldwing The GTS 250 is pretty much a upgraded 9800 card, which is pretty much a upgraded 8800 card. If you don´t want to spend a lot of money go for a GTX 260 896Mb. It will be a noticeable performance boost from the 8800. __________________

03-21-10, 03:50 PM	#2
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	its my understanding that the 200 series cards are a very minor improvement over the 8800 9800 cards (they all share the same G92 GPU) so i wouldnt bother switching for what will barely be a noticable change if any over what you have now.

03-21-10, 05:10 PM	#8
BigBANGtheory Officer Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: British Waters Posts: 243 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	You should wait for the Nvidia 480 release really, currently best bang for your buck is the Ati 5850.

03-21-10, 05:16 PM	#9
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I have the GTX295 but be careful about sli profiles. It is essentially 2 gpu's sandwiched together so needs an sli profile to work. SH5 does not so it is currently only running of one of the cards. Wait for the new fermi cards.

03-21-10, 05:25 PM	#11
demowhc Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	If you dont mind using ATi the HD5850 is clearly the best performance per dollar around atm, not only that it is faster than any single gpu card available from Nvidia. trust me, I have 2!

03-21-10, 06:24 PM	#12
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Actually, the 5870 would be the fastest single GPU card. Trust me, I have none. Current pick would be GTX275 for me, but waiting to see what Nvidia has lined up. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-21-10, 06:56 PM	#13
ironkross Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seneca, SC, USA Posts: 251 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	I'm currently using an Nvidia GeForce 9800GT(Silent Hunter runs great on it) until the 480/470 is available. Then I'll use the 9800 in the Physx slot. __________________ If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.

03-22-10, 12:42 AM	#14
richardphat Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 682 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	HD 5750 I planned and bought it recently. Reason is budget limit, because I couldnt pay over 230+ for a new video card and a new power supply. I did the right choice. The HD 5750 works fine for me.

03-22-10, 05:56 AM	#15
The_Phoenix Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 13 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Talk about some ATI fanboys in here . From personal expierience an upgrade to the 200 gtx series would be a huge difference. if u want to wait for the still not released gtx 300 (heck if u even want to get it because its gonna be expensive) then theres no point in getting a 5000 series radeon card. At least something better then that 8800, i have a superclocked 9800 GT from EVGA and i couldnt be more happy. oh yeah and i run SH5 maxed out.