US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Skybird]

Most Germans have no clue of baseball.

Last warning it means, Bleiente.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Strike 2.

Neal's not a mod he's da man

[Mr Quatro]

u crank would've made a good attorney or at least a great congressional aide, uh?

Originally Posted by u crank

Well that is where the law enforcement part conflicts with the political part. If Mueller has evidence to indict Trump then he would almost certainly do so. That is the end game of this whole process from Mueller's point of view. If he doesn't then and he recommends impeachment then Mueller becomes a political activist. Without an indictable offense impeachment would almost certainly fail. After all Republicans had Bill Clinton clearly guilty of lying under oath yet a Democratic controlled Senate acquitted him. Expect the same.



Is Stone Mueller's slam dunk to get Trump? This is the most the most damaging part of the document.



A charge in an indictment document is not proof of anything. It is an allegation which has to be proved. The big question is whether or not that allegation is a crime. That's debatable and almost certainly will be the basis of Stone's defense. Is this not exactly the same thing that the Clinton Campaign did? Getting dirt on political opponents is a long way from collusion with a foreign power.

The Stone indictment does not allege involvement by Stone or the Trump campaign in Russia’s hacking. Is Stone guilty of some process crimes? Probably. Will that lead to inditing Trump? Some legal experts say probably not.

It is becoming more apparent that this whole process is politically motivated. Andrew C. McCarthy makes that point in this article in National Review.



https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...ia-conspiracy/



The criminalization of political belief. Stalin would be so proud.

[Eichhörnchen]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Most Germans have no clue of baseball.

Last warning it means, Bleiente.

Behalten Sie den Kopf... Wir wollen kein gutes Eichhörnchen verlieren

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

u crank would've made a good attorney or at least a great congressional aide, uh?

Originally Posted by u crank
Well that is where the law enforcement part conflicts with the political part. If Mueller has evidence to indict Trump then he would almost certainly do so. That is the end game of this whole process from Mueller's point of view. If he doesn't then and he recommends impeachment then Mueller becomes a political activist. Without an indictable offense impeachment would almost certainly fail. After all Republicans had Bill Clinton clearly guilty of lying under oath yet a Democratic controlled Senate acquitted him. Expect the same.



Is Stone Mueller's slam dunk to get Trump? This is the most the most damaging part of the document.



A charge in an indictment document is not proof of anything. It is an allegation which has to be proved. The big question is whether or not that allegation is a crime. That's debatable and almost certainly will be the basis of Stone's defense. Is this not exactly the same thing that the Clinton Campaign did? Getting dirt on political opponents is a long way from collusion with a foreign power.

The Stone indictment does not allege involvement by Stone or the Trump campaign in Russia’s hacking. Is Stone guilty of some process crimes? Probably. Will that lead to inditing Trump? Some legal experts say probably not.

It is becoming more apparent that this whole process is politically motivated. Andrew C. McCarthy makes that point in this article in National Review.



https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/...ia-conspiracy/



The criminalization of political belief. Stalin would be so proud.

There is one difference between then and now. Clinton was and still is one of "them". Those democrat politicians supported Bill Clinton, most of these republican politicians only pay lip service to supporting Trump. They don't want positive change for the American public, positive change will show how lousy a job they've all done for the last forty years all the while getting rich in the process without "doing" anything. Our political ruling class have not been looking out for our best interests for a long, long time.

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Strike 2.

I strongly disagree!

Originally Posted by Bleiente

He (August) winds like a worm...

This is a common saying in Germany.

Originally Posted by Bleiente

It sticks with it - Trump is a traitor, racist, demagogue and cheater!

Is this untrue or offended by a person (trump and family) of low spiritual rank, just because this very incompetent person is president?!?


Und ich dachte, hier darf ich die demokratisch zugesicherte Redefreiheit persönlich ausüben...

[Skybird]

This is a common saying in Germany.

That is true indeed ("Er windet sich wie ein Wurm"). But even in German it is considered to be a bit unpolite to tell a stranger.

Und ich dachte, hier darf ich die demokratisch zugesicherte Redefreiheit persönlich ausüben... 01-28-2019 08:45 PM

Neal's place - Neal's rules.

Freedom of speech does not mean you can cash into a private home and then insist the owners of it have to isten to what you have to say.

It means you can own the place and the time to exceute the right of free speech, if you wish. Rent a city hall, for a defined time, at your costs, and then say what you think you must. Or find a speakers corner in Hyde Park where the community has agreed to let this happen. Or found your own broadcasting station. Free speech does not give you claim for the private sphere and private property of others.

This is not "public space" - its a forum. Neal pays the bills, he defines the rules. He allows the public in, but it remains to be his "private property".

My home, my rules. His place, his rules. Simple. Who pays the bill, has the say.

Originally Posted by Skybird

This is not "public space" - its a forum. Neal pays the bills, he defines the rules. He allows the public in, but it remains to be his "private property".

My home, my rules. His place, his rules. Simple. Who pays the bill, has the say.

How stupid are you actually @Skybird.
We modders and programmers are the only ones, which is why this forum still exists.
So keep your mouth shut - you ****.


Nur zur Erklärung - die Sternchen bedeuten Votze.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Bleiente

How stupid are you actually @Skybird.
We modders and programmers are the only ones, which is why this forum still exists.
So keep your mouth shut - you ****.


Nur zur Erklärung - die Sternchen bedeuten Votze.

For the record. Mental problems yes or not, you went too far.


"Nur zur Erklärung - die Sternchen bedeuten Votze." (quote)

Translates into:
"Just to explain - the stars mean c..t".

[Onkel Neal]

Now, backed to our regularly scheduled discussion.

[Skybird]

"Texan settlement".

Thanks.

[mapuc]

Many say Trump lost this fight.

Did he ? or did he just felt pity over his people the employees that have been without money for weeks.

And for how long will this "Opening of the business" be before the next lockdown happens.

Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Many say Trump lost this fight.

Did he ? or did he just felt pity over his people the employees that have been without money for weeks.

And for how long will this "Opening of the business" be before the next lockdown happens.

Markus

I think the president will wait the three weeks to show that the politicians won't do anything about the problem then he'll declare an emergency.

[mapuc]

This is an If-question.

If Trump declare State of emergency

Will this be the first time An American President does this in peacetime or wartime ?
I have a little knowledge and I can't remember any President having declared State of emergency.

Many President have declared emergency in some of the states, when hurricanes have hit the area.

Markus

[Platapus]

I guess if you wanna get kicked off a board, insulting the board's owner is a good way to do it.