BBC - Nuclear subs 'collide in ocean'

BobbyZero · 02-16-09, 05:39 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7892294.stm

I still don't understand how that could happen...with sonars and all, somehow they managed to collide?!

Letum · 02-16-09, 06:37 AM

To war with the French!
1066 shall never be forgotten. Bring on Waterloo.

Jimbuna · 02-16-09, 07:44 AM

If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.

Takeda Shingen · 02-16-09, 09:35 AM

If they are close enough to collide, they would be close enough to hear each other's plant noise.

02-16-09, 09:39 AM

Seamen Balls and Balzac were given their turn at the helms of their respective submarines.

Ok enough of the funny stuff.

Platapus · 02-16-09, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyZero

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7892294.stm

I still don't understand how that could happen...with sonars and all, somehow they managed to collide?!

We have to realize that the construction and operation of the sub along with the procedures followed by the well trained crew are all designed to keep their sub NOT being detected by sonar and other sensors.

If either of the subs was being detected on sonar or other sensors, I think there would be bigger trouble.

Both the English and the French are pretty good at hiding their subs. In this case a little too big.

It is a tragic accident when two really stealthy subs try to occupy the same part of the water at the same time.

Kapt Z · 02-16-09, 09:55 AM

ouch.

Torplexed · 02-16-09, 10:18 AM

First two satellites collide, now it's two submarines. Insurance rates are gonna skyrocket.

longam · 02-16-09, 10:52 AM

I guess now they need to put lookouts back out on deck.

A Very Super Market · 02-16-09, 10:53 AM

Myesss.... thissss issssn't an excussssse to attack the French at all.... your theoriesssss are coooooreeeeect......

goldorak · 02-16-09, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.

I find that very difficult to believe.

Oberon · 02-16-09, 11:28 AM

Hmmm
The French sub took sonar dome damage which indicates a bow collision, it's possible that one of them came up through the layer and met the other.
The chances of two missile boats colliding are pretty astronomical, if it was an SSN and an SSBN then I'd say it's the old 'got too close while tracking' story, but two boomers? Boomers don't trial, well, they're not exactly designed for it.
Strange, but true, wrong place wrong time I guess

Letum · 02-16-09, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

if it was an SSN and an SSBN then I'd say it's the old 'got too close while tracking' story, but two boomers? Boomers don't trial, well, they're not exactly designed for it.

I bet they still practice for it tho.

Jimbuna · 02-16-09, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by goldorak

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

If they were both in silent/stealth mode it's possible they never even knew of each others presence in the vicinity.

I find that very difficult to believe.

The real drama will unfold if/when an official explanation is ever released.

Sub146 · 02-16-09, 12:32 PM

Perhaps they were acting out the part from dasboot where they nearly collided with thompson in high seas.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	If they are close enough to collide, they would be close enough to hear each other's plant noise.

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OneToughHerring Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Seamen Balls and Balzac were given their turn at the helms of their respective submarines. Ok enough of the funny stuff.

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Kapt Z Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: ...somewhere in the swamps of Jersey. Posts: 906 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 0	ouch.

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Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	First two satellites collide, now it's two submarines. Insurance rates are gonna skyrocket.

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longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	I guess now they need to put lookouts back out on deck.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Hmmm The French sub took sonar dome damage which indicates a bow collision, it's possible that one of them came up through the layer and met the other. The chances of two missile boats colliding are pretty astronomical, if it was an SSN and an SSBN then I'd say it's the old 'got too close while tracking' story, but two boomers? Boomers don't trial, well, they're not exactly designed for it. Strange, but true, wrong place wrong time I guess

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Sub146 Mate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Essex , England. Posts: 53 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Perhaps they were acting out the part from dasboot where they nearly collided with thompson in high seas.