GWX (Grey Wolves eXpansion Mod) - Page 141

Tsavo · 10-31-07, 06:31 PM

From you post:

"It will work on all versions and all supermods installed on your system."

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-31-07, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Racerboy

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

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Originally Posted by Tsavo

My GWX be broken now with Raerbuoys mod?
No sounds on Weldcat plane?
So how he know so much now? :hmm:

Hi Tsavo. There are a number of sounds, and other things that are broken by the SH4 Effects for SH3 mod that need to be corrected before it can be considered to be compatible with GWX. As a user, you will need to decide if the loss of functionality is worth continued use.

that is correct. I based the mod in SH3 1.4b files which makes it not 100% compatible (sounds seem to be the only problem). As errors are reported of missing sounds I will fix them. As far as graphics go no problems have been reported.

Well, I imagine that depends on what you define as a problem doesn't it?

In addition to the above issues, major FPS hits have been reported with your mod as well as other graphic errors.

I'm sure that you will eventually sort out the numerous problems since your work is still a WIP. However, in the meantime I'm not going to whitewash matters for GWX users that come here with comments or questions about your work.

We have always been open in our thoughts regarding works external to GWX. Some things are truly compatible and some things are not.

TheDarkWraith · 10-31-07, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

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Originally Posted by Racerboy

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

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Originally Posted by Tsavo

My GWX be broken now with Raerbuoys mod?
No sounds on Weldcat plane?
So how he know so much now? :hmm:

Hi Tsavo. There are a number of sounds, and other things that are broken by the SH4 Effects for SH3 mod that need to be corrected before it can be considered to be compatible with GWX. As a user, you will need to decide if the loss of functionality is worth continued use.

that is correct. I based the mod in SH3 1.4b files which makes it not 100% compatible (sounds seem to be the only problem). As errors are reported of missing sounds I will fix them. As far as graphics go no problems have been reported.

Well, I imagine that depends on what you define as a problem doesn't it?

In addition to the above issues, major FPS hits have been reported with your mod as well as other graphic errors.

I'm sure that you will eventually sort out the numerous problems since your work is still a WIP. However, in the meantime I'm not going to whitewash matters for GWX users that come here with comments or questions about your work.

We have always been open in our thoughts regarding works external to GWX. Some things are truly compatible and some things are not.

I agree. These questions and all need to be reported on my thread and not here.

Dr.Zod · 10-31-07, 07:36 PM

Me agian!

I just saw the new Sh4 to Sh3 Ship Models by Molke.
My question is, will they be included in GWX 1.04. There are quiet some warships from japan. They would be a great addon for the people who play at Penang.

Greetz

Dr.Zod

Kpt. Lehmann · 10-31-07, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Zod

Me agian!

I just saw the new Sh4 to Sh3 Ship Models by Molke.
My question is, will they be included in GWX 1.04. There are quiet some warships from japan. They would be a great addon for the people who play at Penang.

Greetz

Dr.Zod

Sorry mate but no.

We have a policy against using SH4 material in GWX that is in line with SH4 user agreements set out by the SH4 development team.

Modders who choose to port SH4 material to SH3 and release it, are doing so at their own risk. Furthermore, concerning SH4 material being ported to SH3, there are scores of code minefields that must be navigated, due to changes in the SH4 engine/code that are not recognized by the SH3 engine/code.

Dr.Zod · 11-01-07, 02:13 AM

I see.

Another thing thou!

I´ve just started a new game. Can it be that the Deck Gun (88) is overpowered!!!
I mean, for e.g. I spot a small frighter at moderate wind and sea so I can´t use the deck gun. I fire a torp and hit it into the middle very low (7m torpedo depth). So far so good, sometimes it takes hours (game hours) to sink the ship or I´m even forced to use a second torp for a small frighter! Thats ok since you said you reworked the ships and the sinking behavior, thats realistic. But now comes the clue, I encoutered also a small frigher at calm sea, now I thought why don´t you have some fun with the deck gun. So I start shooting, some good hits below the waterline, and some not so good (thanks for your reworked gun behaivior, that is very cool). But whats that, after like 6-10 shots "BOOOOOM", the ship breaks in half and sinks like a rock. Wow lucky shot, I thought. So I encountered some more Small frighters and tested if I was lucky or not. But somehow all my encouters with small frighters where I use the deck gun sink very fast (10-25 shells)!!!
Do you get the picture? Torp takes hours or even two (thats cool and realistic), but the deck gun??? Am I just lucky, is this a known issue or is everything ok? I recall that you said the deck gun is not so powerful at all (compared to stock SH3)!

Thanks for your answer in advance

Greetz

Dr.Zod

danlisa · 11-01-07, 03:13 AM

Dr.Zod

You are very lucky. You found a sweet spot.

There are critical zones on all the ships that had their damage models revamped for GWX. They're just not that easy to hit/find.

10-25 shells for a small freighter seems about right to me. On a small ship like that, 10-25 holes in it's hull (below water line) would certainly cause it to sink. Now, as for the explosion, as I said you may have hit the sweet spot or the flooding you caused reached the ships boilers and they exploded.

Carry on. Sink em all.

Jimbuna · 11-01-07, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsavo

I remove Raerbuoys Mod.
Non corectness not aceptable my install of GWX.
I await GWX 1.04 most fevorishly!!
My teeth fall out waiting!!!

Your best option (and trouble free at that hopefully) would be to await the next release of GWX.
Testing is at an advanced stage , which would/should suggest that most glitches will have been ironed out prior to it's release.

Kpt. Lehmann · 11-01-07, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Dr.Zod

You are very lucky. You found a sweet spot.

There are critical zones on all the ships that had their damage models revamped for GWX. They're just not that easy to hit/find.

10-25 shells for a small freighter seems about right to me. On a small ship like that, 10-25 holes in it's hull (below water line) would certainly cause it to sink. Now, as for the explosion, as I said you may have hit the sweet spot or the flooding you caused reached the ships boilers and they exploded.

Carry on. Sink em all.

Danlisa summed it up pretty well.

Other suggestions would be to make sure that "realistic damage" is selected in your 'realism' options... and also to LET YOUR CREW do the shooting. The captain virtually never manned the gun. Your AI crew will not typically be so accurate, resulting in a more realistic outcome and a higher ammunition expenditure per kill.

999-Jay-999 · 11-01-07, 04:25 AM

Just want to commend you all for all the work you have and are putting into this MOD..

Its phenominal....

Kpt. Lehmann · 11-01-07, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 999-Jay-999

Just want to commend you all for all the work you have and are putting into this MOD..

Its phenominal....

Thanks from all of us. We are glad you are enjoying it.

Palamedes · 11-03-07, 02:06 PM

I think I have a bug with GWX.. So far this mod is awesome.. I'm very impressed, except for one minor detail..

My deck gun wont load. The deckgun has 0/0 ammo, yet it says I'm carrying 220 of the HE rounds.. *sob* I use my deck gun a lot.. I needs it, my precious.. heh

Any ideas? Is there some super secret special way to reload the deck gun or have it recognize that I actually do have ammo?

THanks guys..

melnibonian · 11-03-07, 02:12 PM

It's a classic issue with SH3. Try clicking on the Shell (on the bottom right hand side of the screen) to load it in the gun and then fire away

Palamedes · 11-03-07, 02:46 PM

No it says I have no ammo.. I click the shell, nothing happens. If I look at the ammo list I clearly have HE ammo, but the HE shell shows 0 of 0.

melnibonian · 11-03-07, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Palamedes

No it says I have no ammo.. I click the shell, nothing happens. If I look at the ammo list I clearly have HE ammo, but the HE shell shows 0 of 0.

That's odd :hmm: Do you have any other mods installed? Did you enable/disable mods while at sea or without having Rollback SH3Cmdr? I'm sorry but I cannot think of anything else at the moment.

10-31-07, 07:36 PM	#2104
Dr.Zod Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	New Ships in GWX 1.04? Me agian! I just saw the new Sh4 to Sh3 Ship Models by Molke. My question is, will they be included in GWX 1.04. There are quiet some warships from japan. They would be a great addon for the people who play at Penang. Greetz Dr.Zod

11-01-07, 03:13 AM	#2107
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Dr.Zod You are very lucky. You found a sweet spot. There are critical zones on all the ships that had their damage models revamped for GWX. They're just not that easy to hit/find. 10-25 shells for a small freighter seems about right to me. On a small ship like that, 10-25 holes in it's hull (below water line) would certainly cause it to sink. Now, as for the explosion, as I said you may have hit the sweet spot or the flooding you caused reached the ships boilers and they exploded. Carry on. Sink em all. __________________

11-01-07, 04:25 AM	#2110
999-Jay-999 Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 89 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Just want to commend you all for all the work you have and are putting into this MOD.. Its phenominal.... __________________

11-03-07, 02:12 PM	#2113
melnibonian Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Reading UK Posts: 3,473 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	It's a classic issue with SH3. Try clicking on the Shell (on the bottom right hand side of the screen) to load it in the gun and then fire away __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com/ http://wolvesatwar.com/ Download GWX and other goodies: http://hosted.filefront.com/melnibonian

10-31-07, 06:31 PM	#2101
Tsavo Seaman Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 42 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	From you post: "It will work on all versions and all supermods installed on your system."

11-01-07, 02:13 AM	#2106
Dr.Zod Watch Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I see. Another thing thou! I´ve just started a new game. Can it be that the Deck Gun (88) is overpowered!!! I mean, for e.g. I spot a small frighter at moderate wind and sea so I can´t use the deck gun. I fire a torp and hit it into the middle very low (7m torpedo depth). So far so good, sometimes it takes hours (game hours) to sink the ship or I´m even forced to use a second torp for a small frighter! Thats ok since you said you reworked the ships and the sinking behavior, thats realistic. But now comes the clue, I encoutered also a small frigher at calm sea, now I thought why don´t you have some fun with the deck gun. So I start shooting, some good hits below the waterline, and some not so good (thanks for your reworked gun behaivior, that is very cool). But whats that, after like 6-10 shots "BOOOOOM", the ship breaks in half and sinks like a rock. Wow lucky shot, I thought. So I encountered some more Small frighters and tested if I was lucky or not. But somehow all my encouters with small frighters where I use the deck gun sink very fast (10-25 shells)!!! Do you get the picture? Torp takes hours or even two (thats cool and realistic), but the deck gun??? Am I just lucky, is this a known issue or is everything ok? I recall that you said the deck gun is not so powerful at all (compared to stock SH3)! Thanks for your answer in advance Greetz Dr.Zod

11-03-07, 02:06 PM	#2112
Palamedes Nub Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think I have a bug with GWX.. So far this mod is awesome.. I'm very impressed, except for one minor detail.. My deck gun wont load. The deckgun has 0/0 ammo, yet it says I'm carrying 220 of the HE rounds.. sob I use my deck gun a lot.. I needs it, my precious.. heh Any ideas? Is there some super secret special way to reload the deck gun or have it recognize that I actually do have ammo? THanks guys..

11-03-07, 02:46 PM	#2114
Palamedes Nub Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No it says I have no ammo.. I click the shell, nothing happens. If I look at the ammo list I clearly have HE ammo, but the HE shell shows 0 of 0.