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Old 08-25-10, 07:46 PM   #1
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Default It breaks my heart...

With talks of "defense cuts" in the British media and what Ive read up on them I'm absolutely devastated to learn that the RAF is going to be cut to its smallest number since world war 1, the army is going to loose a lot of tanks and trucks (stuff not needed in Afghanistan) and the poor navy might loose its two new carriers before their built. This sickens me, the MOD is only thinking one thing:AFGHANISTAN. We (Britain) has the 2nd largest defense budget on the planet, where is it going if we are loosing our navy and air force.

Britain the once great nation controlled a quarter of the world, then gave it all back...



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Old 08-26-10, 12:09 PM   #2
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I hear ya Tommo....I hear ya...
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Old 08-26-10, 01:32 PM   #3
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Old 09-25-10, 07:43 PM   #4
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If this is true, Argentina is going to float straight over to the Falklands...
Its OK to focus on Afghanistan now, our troops need equipment but all going to plan the UK will be out in 2015, but what about 2020.


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Old 10-20-10, 04:28 PM   #5
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Well, no jets on carriers until 2020...
I didn't think it would be that bad.
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Old 10-20-10, 07:14 PM   #6
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Actually the UK as the 3rd highest defense budget after the PRC. The UK is projected to go down to #4 with France being #3.

2010 Data:
USA: 661 Billion $
PRC: 100 Billion $
Fra: 63.9 Billion $
UK: 58.3 Billion $
Ru: 53.3 Billion $
JP: 51 Billion $

Sorry to say but we could by the Queen's Military out of our petty cash jar...
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Old 10-20-10, 07:33 PM   #7
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Sorry to say but we could by the Queen's Military out of our petty cash jar...
How much for just Prince Harry? And please keep in mind I'm expecting a discount on account of the ginger thing.
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Old 10-21-10, 03:05 AM   #8
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If we sacked the royals we could buy a couple of carriers no problem. I'm quite sure we could invent some sort of hand shaking, holiday taking machine that could take over much of the 'valuable work' they do.
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If we sacked the royals we could buy a couple of carriers no problem. I'm quite sure we could invent some sort of hand shaking, holiday taking machine that could take over much of the 'valuable work' they do.
Your royals only cost you 37 million pounds a year, not even enough for one lousy F-35.
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With talks of "defense cuts" in the British media and what Ive read up on them I'm absolutely devastated to learn that the RAF is going to be cut to its smallest number since world war 1, the army is going to loose a lot of tanks and trucks (stuff not needed in Afghanistan) and the poor navy might loose its two new carriers before their built. This sickens me, the MOD is only thinking one thing:AFGHANISTAN. We (Britain) has the 2nd largest defense budget on the planet, where is it going if we are loosing our navy and air force.

Britain the once great nation controlled a quarter of the world, then gave it all back...



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Didn't have much choice but to give the empire back after WWII because we were broke and had to pay the US back large sums of money. A very similar situation faces the UK today, but it wasn't a war what done it, it was those greedy bankers.

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Your royals only cost you 37 million pounds a year, not even enough for one lousy F-35.
Still a waste of money though.

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I think if we shake them down you'll find there's a bit more than £37 million to be saved. The Queen is one of the richest women in the world, possibly because we give her millions a year and pay for all her palaces, castles, etc. Impound her bank card and sell the multiple homes of the multiple royals that we fund and we'll have a few bob to spare.
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Old 10-21-10, 10:58 AM   #13
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I'd rather personally give HM 66p per annum than the billions Darling promised Scotland conveniently before the last election, so Labour could retain seats! I won't carry on about the unjust proportions between the countries of the UK.

A vast income from tourism aside, the land owned by The Crown Estate has an income to the UK economy well above what the Queen costs. More than makes the royal family 'worth it'!
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I hear the tourist attraction defence a lot. Most tourists never see a royal, they see the castles and guards doing what they do. I would prefer cardboard cutouts of royals in the windows to real royals sucking down millions in tax. I just cant see a good side to sustaining a bunch of inbred nuts.
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I hear the tourist attraction defence a lot. Most tourists never see a royal, they see the castles and guards doing what they do. I would prefer cardboard cutouts of royals in the windows to real royals sucking down millions in tax. I just cant see a good side to sustaining a bunch of inbred nuts.
Perhaps you would prefer the royalty take back the land that they gave the country in exchange for their income?

The income generated for the country by their land far, far, outweighs the relatively small amount asked for.
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