Realism- and gameplay-related hardcode fixes for SH3.EXE

[Tessa]

Originally Posted by Stiebler

@Tessa:

SH3 has always possessed an unreliable game-save system.

It is widely recognised that it is unsafe to save any game when any other unit is within spawning distance, or within 30km of land or a base.

Two convoys spawning together close to your U-boat also result in long-term problems for saving games, even if you do not make the game-save until you are well away from the convoys.

Some people recommend also that you never save a game when submerged. I have not had this problem myself (unless one of the other problems was also present).

The game-saves you mentioned above break at least two of the above rules.

And finally there is always the difficulty that one of your installed mods may be interfering with another. But changes that H.sie has made should have no effect at all on game-saves, as H.sie has explained above.

Stiebler.

I've been playing long enough (5 years) to know all the scenarios which can screw up your savegames. With this new patch completely breaking some scenarios that previously would have a 100% ctd rate loading to a perfectly stable game was perplexing to say the least. Sometimes 'life happens' and you are left with no option but to save the game wherever you are, even if you know its a bad idea but something irl forces you to leave the game or shut the machine down.

Largely I was wondering if anyone else had experienced any of the same scenarios I am now to potentially debug/figure out the crux of the problem. I know h.sie didn't purposely mess with any part that governs the saving process, though it has had a noticeable effect on me since enabling this particular mod. Long as I don't have to turn my machine off its great!

[h.sie]

@Tessa: It seems to be a language problem. I cannot understand from your words wheater the situation is better or worse now with the patch. But it's my fault, since I'm not native english. Please use some simple to understand words.

"With this new patch completely breaking some scenarios that previously would have a 100% ctd rate loading to a perfectly stable game was perplexing to say the least."

This sounds for me that the situation now is better than before.

Important: Are you talking about V15E or also about V15D??

[Silent Ace]

Originally Posted by h.sie

I am slightly optimistic that in the near future the lazy 1WO will move automatically on the bridge when boat surfaces.

and finally to make it right
Thank you h.sie

[h.sie]

@EXPERTS:

I found out that the quick-diving-tank can be emptied by ordering "blow ballast", even if the supply of compressed air is empty and the boat is submerged and 150m deep. How can this be historically explained? Or is that a bug?

This gives the sub a little positive buoyancy, enough to surface slowly. I did not test if the bouyancy is still sufficient to surface if there are compartments flooded.

h.sie

[LGN1]

Originally Posted by h.sie

@EXPERTS:

I found out that the quick-diving-tank can be emptied by ordering "blow ballast", even if the supply of compressed air is empty and the boat is submerged and 150m deep. How can this be historically explained? Or is that a bug?

This gives the sub a little positive buoyancy, enough to surface slowly. I did not test if the bouyancy is still sufficient to surface if there are compartments flooded.

h.sie

Hi h.sie,

as far as I know the quick diving tank (Untertriebszelle) could only be emptied with compressed air. However, all other tanks could be emptied also by the pumps (Lenz- + Hilfslenzpumpe). Therefore, I think it should be possible to surface the boat without any speed and compressed air.

In other words, although it's not accurate that you can empty the quick diving tank without compressed air, I think the resulting effect in game is realistic (except if your pumps are destroyed). With a working pump there should be a way to surface the boat without speed and compressed air.

Anyway, if your engines are damaged/destroyed and your compressed air is used up, you are probably anyway doomed because you probably have heavy floodings,...

Cheers, LGN1

[h.sie]

Little Update V15E2 available.

What's new?

1) The lazy 1WO now automatically moves to the bridge when surfacing.

If there is an Officer in the Bow-Quarters he will move to the bridge. If not, an Officer from the Stern-Quarters will be moved up. If the Turm is critically damaged or destroyed, no Officer will be moved up.

2) Stieblers comfortable HsieOptionsSelector.exe

After patching sh3.exe to V15E, one can now use Stieblers cool Selector Tool to individually enable/disable some of the fixes. Even the 4GB-patch can be applied with his Selector!! Thank you very much, Stiebler!!


The V15E2-Patch-Kit also contains a README.doc Quick-Manual that describes all steps how to patch and configure the patches.

h.sie

[fitzcarraldo]

Originally Posted by h.sie

Little Update V15E2 available.

What's new?

1) The lazy 1WO now automatically moves to the bridge when surfacing.

If there is an Officer in the Bow-Quartes he will move to the bridge. If not, an Officer from the Stern-Quarters will be moved up. If the Turm is critically damaged or destroyed, no Officer will be moved up.

2) Stieblers comfortable HsieOptionsSelector.exe

After patching sh3.exe to V15E, one can now use Stieblers cool Selector Tool to individually enable/disable some of the fixes. Even the 4GB-patch can be applied with his Selector!! Thank you very much, Stiebler!!


The V15E2-Patch-Kit also contains a README.doc Quick-Manual that describes all steps how to patch and configure the patches.

h.sie

Many thanks for all your work!!!

Fitzcarraldo

[LGN1]

Great work as usual, h.sie & Stiebler! Thanks for your efforts!

[ryanwigginton]

Awesome! Now... if only it was compatible with my sh3.exe

[Magic1111]

Originally Posted by h.sie

Little Update V15E2 available.

What's new?

1) The lazy 1WO now automatically moves to the bridge when surfacing.

If there is an Officer in the Bow-Quartes he will move to the bridge. If not, an Officer from the Stern-Quarters will be moved up. If the Turm is critically damaged or destroyed, no Officer will be moved up.

2) Stieblers comfortable HsieOptionsSelector.exe

After patching sh3.exe to V15E, one can now use Stieblers cool Selector Tool to individually enable/disable some of the fixes. Even the 4GB-patch can be applied with his Selector!! Thank you very much, Stiebler!!


The V15E2-Patch-Kit also contains a README.doc Quick-Manual that describes all steps how to patch and configure the patches.

h.sie

Wonderful, great work !

Thanks to h.sie & stiebler !!!

Best regards,
Magic

[brett25]

excellent work, mate

So we just disable the repair option to play NYGM?

[Victor Schutze]

Originally Posted by h.sie

Little Update V15E2 available.

What's new?

1) The lazy 1WO now automatically moves to the bridge when surfacing.

If there is an Officer in the Bow-Quartes he will move to the bridge. If not, an Officer from the Stern-Quarters will be moved up. If the Turm is critically damaged or destroyed, no Officer will be moved up.

2) Stieblers comfortable HsieOptionsSelector.exe

After patching sh3.exe to V15E, one can now use Stieblers cool Selector Tool to individually enable/disable some of the fixes. Even the 4GB-patch can be applied with his Selector!! Thank you very much, Stiebler!!


The V15E2-Patch-Kit also contains a README.doc Quick-Manual that describes all steps how to patch and configure the patches.

h.sie

Awesome news!

[h.sie]

Thanks, guys!

@brett: Yes, simply disable Repairs Option for NYGM compatibility.

@ALL: Any others having savegame/reload problems like Tessa?

[h.sie]

Hi Sailor Steve,

Je oller je doller (old german say).

Look at Folder "SH3-Bugfixes".

Greeetings,
h.sie

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by h.sie

Hi Sailor Steve,

Je oller je doller (old german say).

Look at Folder "SH3-Bugfixes".

Greeetings,
h.sie

Guess I didn't zap my post fast enough.