Strike on North Korea

[THE_MASK]

Imo China is telling North Korea what to do to provoke a war . China are the trouble makers imo .

[vienna]

Newsweek Exclusive: North Korean Missile Claims Are ‘a Hoax’ --

https://www.yahoo.com/news/newsweek-...163255839.html

Well, Trump has still got Venezuela as a political fallback...




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[Jimbuna]

Perhaps the Chinese are beginning to recognise how potentially dangerous the situation is right now.

China's President Xi Jinping has urged Donald Trump and North Korea to avoid "words and actions" that worsen tensions, state media say.
Mr Trump and North Korea have been exchanging hostile rhetoric, with the US president threatening to rain "fire and fury" on the North.
But China, North Korea's only major ally, has been urging restraint.
A White House statement said the US and China agreed North Korea must stop "provocative and escalatory behaviour".
A statement by North Korea's official KCNA news agency issued on Saturday said the Trump administration "had better talk and act properly," if it did not want "the American empire to meet its tragic doom".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40909468

[Rockstar]

Every day China's influence and power in the region is expanding We are challenging them in the South Sea and now we're calling their bluff in the North. I say screw'em take it as far they want to go with it. Continue with freedom of navigation and military exercises.

[Jimbuna]

I'm actually beginning to feel that way as well....US credibility worldwide is starting to be sorely tested.

[Rockstar]

I'll be honest I kinda agree with the 'fire and fury' comment. probably scared the livin bejeesus out of them. As they were most likely expecting the usual modest and tolerant response.

[thereddaikon]

I think China is starting to grow tired of North Korea. They were a valuable tool but now they seem to becoming a liability. Having a hermit state that is beholden to you act as a buffer to western influence is great. For a long time NK was harmless. China sold them enough weapons and aide to prevent them from collapsing but not enough to make them a real threat to anyone.

Now NK has nuclear weapons and is in a position to start a war on China's doorstep. They really don't want that. Especially if NATO forces are involved. It would put western influences right on their border and they would lose a lot of face. It would look like big mighty China can't take care of problems on their home turf.

As for NK I think there was a lot of underestimating going around on what they were capable of. Successfully making a nuke was unexpected. They aren't exactly good nukes and they can't fit them on smaller missiles yet but even having one is too much.

Yesterday Chinese state media said that if NK shoots first they won't intervene. They probably ran the numbers and decided getting involved wasn't worth it. Their navy is growing but isn't ready yet and a war now would set them back decades. Their long term goal is to have enough muscle to kick the US pacific fleet out of the area. They aren't ready for that.

If the bullets start flying the absolute best case scenario is the nuke is intercepted by Aegis or THAAD, and allied forces move in for a quick victory. Seals or Delta either apprehend or assassinate Kim and his people and we roll into Pyongyang ready to start the world's largest humanitarian mission. Things get a lot worse if the billions we've spent on ABM can't stop one crappy NK ICBM and Seoul or Tokyo gets nuked or if China comes to NK's aide. The nuke being successful is a possibility but I doubt China will get involved unless we do something that really pisses them off. Either way NK is done for and Kim is dead.

[eddie]

China has told NK that if you launch missiles at American territory, and the US strikes back, they are on their own. If the US and SK strike first, they will
intervene on behalf of NK.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...D=ansmsnnews11

[mapuc]

"But will intervene if Washington strikes first"
Would this statement rule out a preemptive strike ?

´cause I could very well see Washington give order to do such a thing, when they see NK is fully prepared to launch their missiles against Guam.

Markus

[Aktungbby]

thereddaikon!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by eddie

China has told NK that if you launch missiles at American territory, and the US strikes back, they are on their own. If the US and SK strike first, they will
intervene on behalf of NK.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...D=ansmsnnews11

That makes sense

[Jimbuna]

Looks like Kim was the first one to blink and has lost his battle in the war of words following the statement released by the Chinese (see post above).

The POTUS has won this round and a great many people can rest more easily for now.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un reviewed plans to fire missiles towards the US Pacific territory of Guam but will hold off, state media said.
Although prepared for "the enveloping fire at Guam", the North said it would watch what "the foolish Yankees" do before taking a decision.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40931775

[Von Due]

It's not hard to see NK has parked any plans on testing their might on Guam, or any other place, while "saving face". Another question is if the WH has the wits to see this as anything other than an increased threat or if they'll go out and proclaim a decisive victory in the war of words. I'll grab the popcorn...

[Jimbuna]

Hopefully they'll let matters rest now. The whole world (apart from NK) know who won (for want of a better word).

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Looks like Kim was the first one to blink and has lost his battle in the war of words following the statement released by the Chinese (see post above).

The POTUS has won this round and a great many people can rest more easily for now.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40931775

This is good news for all concerned

Now watch NK launch a missile from a submarine that lands in the middle of the Gulf of Alaska and say, "Oh so sorry we had technical mistake in missile re-entry"