[REL] Kriegsmarine Wiz-Wheel templates released!

Hitman · 06-06-07, 09:26 AM

The KM Kaleuns had for that a table printed in paper, I have done one for SH3 and I'm thinking about making a mod for replacing the pull-down map in SH3 GWX or NYGM with it. Since the german U-Boot crews had no "tracking party", everything was done "on the fly" by two persons, the one directing fire and observation (IWO on the UZO when surfaced or Kaleun on the scope when submerged) and TDC operator. The first one gave all data he could observe or calculate directly, the second one did the calculations with wiz-wheels and tables and fed the TDC with the results.
The table I have prepared (Never seen a real one, but based on all info I have gathered by now) represents 3000x3000 metres in 36 squares (6x6), with the U-Boot down-left and the target up-left. The idea is to steer the U-Boot so that the enemy stays constant at 90 or 270 degree bearing, and make two observations. When you do the second one, you go in th square right from the U-Boot as much as it has advanced (There is another graded scale below for indicating distance travelled at 1, 3,5 and 7 knots), then down from the top as much as the enemy vessel closed in, and that gives you a point on the square. Since it has also graduated scale representing the AOB of the target, you just read the AOB in the line your determined point is intersecting. No need to plot or draw anything on the chart

Once you have the AOB, you simply use a slide ruler and determine instantly the enemy speed by taking your own speed and target AOB into account.

Maraz · 06-06-07, 09:38 AM

Very interesting, could you think about making this table available?
Cheers
Maraz

Kaleun Klink · 06-06-07, 04:24 PM

You know, an industrious kaleun (i.e., one with extra time on his hands) could bring in a little pocket change building and offering the various wiz wheels + instruction sheets...
:hmm:
(Not me, mind you: I'd get Elmer's glue everywhere.)

Hitman · 06-08-07, 09:11 AM

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Very interesting, could you think about making this table available?
Cheers
Maraz

They will come somewhen, but I have other priorities now. Here is an example of the crude version I'm using right now (Externally to the game, i.e. printed in a DIN A4 paper sheet). It has bits of graphics by other authors, so it is for personal use only, but you get the idea of how the final version I want should look like :hmm:

joegrundman · 07-17-07, 11:00 AM

Do you mean something like this? (It's draggable too)

ichso · 07-17-07, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

Do you mean something like this? (It's draggable too)

Is that avaiblable ingame ? Sometimes I think I have to look closer at stuff...

don1reed · 07-17-07, 12:21 PM

Museum quality, Hitman and Puster Bill.

All the best.

Puster Bill · 07-17-07, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by don1reed

Museum quality, Hitman and Puster Bill.

All the best.

I'm just an idiot that can print stuff and use a pair of scissors. Hitman is the real artist.

joegrundman · 07-17-07, 08:11 PM

Ichso: "Is that avaiblable ingame ? Sometimes I think I have to look closer at stuff..."

No it's not already available in game, i just put it there on the mission status screen which i use for testing as it's such an unimportant page in other respects

ichso · 07-18-07, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by joegrundman

Ichso: "Is that avaiblable ingame ? Sometimes I think I have to look closer at stuff..."

No it's not already available in game, i just put it there on the mission status screen which i use for testing as it's such an unimportant page in other respects

Ah, thanks

I thought it was one of those pull down pages in the upper left corner of the nav map screen. The screenshot looked like this only not on the nav map

06-06-07, 09:26 AM	#1
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	The KM Kaleuns had for that a table printed in paper, I have done one for SH3 and I'm thinking about making a mod for replacing the pull-down map in SH3 GWX or NYGM with it. Since the german U-Boot crews had no "tracking party", everything was done "on the fly" by two persons, the one directing fire and observation (IWO on the UZO when surfaced or Kaleun on the scope when submerged) and TDC operator. The first one gave all data he could observe or calculate directly, the second one did the calculations with wiz-wheels and tables and fed the TDC with the results. The table I have prepared (Never seen a real one, but based on all info I have gathered by now) represents 3000x3000 metres in 36 squares (6x6), with the U-Boot down-left and the target up-left. The idea is to steer the U-Boot so that the enemy stays constant at 90 or 270 degree bearing, and make two observations. When you do the second one, you go in th square right from the U-Boot as much as it has advanced (There is another graded scale below for indicating distance travelled at 1, 3,5 and 7 knots), then down from the top as much as the enemy vessel closed in, and that gives you a point on the square. Since it has also graduated scale representing the AOB of the target, you just read the AOB in the line your determined point is intersecting. No need to plot or draw anything on the chart Once you have the AOB, you simply use a slide ruler and determine instantly the enemy speed by taking your own speed and target AOB into account. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

06-06-07, 09:38 AM	#2
Maraz Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rome, Italy Posts: 177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very interesting, could you think about making this table available? Cheers Maraz __________________ First career: VIIB U-54 Current career (Black Sea): IID U-24 GWX 2.1, U-Jagd Tools, 100% difficulty, manual targeting, DiD,

06-06-07, 04:24 PM	#3
Kaleun Klink Seaman Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: la raza de Los Angeles Posts: 42 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	You know, an industrious kaleun (i.e., one with extra time on his hands) could bring in a little pocket change building and offering the various wiz wheels + instruction sheets... :hmm: (Not me, mind you: I'd get Elmer's glue everywhere.) __________________ Bernaaaaaard! Current games: UBOAT ... Victory at Sea Pacific ... Ye olde games: SH3 + GWX3 Gold ... SH4 plain vanilla ... Steam and Iron ... Jutland ... War Plan Pacific ... ...and many board games!

07-17-07, 11:00 AM	#5
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Do you mean something like this? (It's draggable too) __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill

07-17-07, 12:21 PM	#7
don1reed Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Valhalla: Silent Generation Posts: 1,149 Downloads: 910 Uploads: 0	Museum quality, Hitman and Puster Bill. All the best. __________________ During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ~ George Orwell

07-17-07, 08:11 PM	#9
joegrundman Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,689 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Ichso: "Is that avaiblable ingame ? Sometimes I think I have to look closer at stuff..." No it's not already available in game, i just put it there on the mission status screen which i use for testing as it's such an unimportant page in other respects __________________ "Enemy submarines are to be called U-Boats. The term submarine is to be reserved for Allied under water vessels. U-Boats are those dastardly villains who sink our ships, while submarines are those gallant and noble craft which sink theirs." Winston Churchill