Quitting smoking (HONEST!!)

[gordonmull]

Best cure for the booze....PM me and I'll send you the forwarding address to send it too

OK I'll sign up for that one...just as soon as I've had another can

Please read up on the e-cigarettes as they can be rather dangerous.
Patches etc, should also be considered last resort, as you are substituing one addiction with another. The whole idea of using patches and gum to get off the habit is a pure marketing sale.

If possible, get to the root of the addiction - and I can tell you right up front, that its NOT physical - its mental.

I've done quite a bit of reading on e-cigs and have chemicals risk assessment experience. In my opinion of the known facts and in light of what studies have been done I cannot see why they are rather dangerous. More dangerous than using nothing but far, far less dangerous than tobacco.

Habit vs. physical addiction - frankly it depends on the person. Since you still enjoy the odd cigar you're obviously not as dependent as me. Once I stop nicotine I can't do that because I'd be straight back on the fags and I've proven that to myself over and over: "just one" becomes just 30. This is my ninth attempt, so I've got a bit of experience. We are all different.

Cigarettes cause heart disease and cancer, E-Cigarettes just cause heart disease.

I'd be very interested to see a source for this. In none of my research have I found any link to heart disease from e-cigs. In fact, Dr Farsalinos, who could probably be considered the leading independent expert on e-cigs, is a heart specialist and has not indicated this.

Facts about e-cigs:
Ingredient 1: Vegetable glycerine (VG), already used in medical inhalers. Not dangerous.
Ingredient 2: Propylene glycol (PG), already used in smoke machines, medical inhalers. Not dangerous.
Ingredient 3: Nicotine dilution in VG or PG, in tobacco already, barely harmful at the concentrations used.
Ingredient 4: Flavouring. There's an unknown on what effect it will have. I use menthol, that age old cold remedy that the doc tells you to put in boiling water and inhale. If buying from a reputable supplier the flavouring will at least be food grade.

My point with e-cigs would be that placing a KNOWN cancer risk with over 2000 different chemicals, doing god knows what in synergy, against a handful of chemicals, most of which are known to be safe, where would you put your bets? Ideally on neither but it isn't an ideal world.

I hope that didn't come over a a bit ranty, just presenting what I know and hopefully getting to learn from others