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Sledgehammer427 · 07-04-09, 03:44 AM

Sure, I think that'll be okay

07-04-09, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

Hull and guns platforms are separate objects, which other did you have in mind ?

the decks are flat, maybe the texture isn't that good ?

keltos

It may be just the textures.
Kind of hard to tell.
Here's a quick example image.

The RED area has been selected and detached.
So it's a seperate object, but still part of the Turm.obj
In Game, it gives nice sharp edges.

AVGWarhawk · 07-05-09, 09:12 AM

Privateer

The sharp edges as Privateer describes and demonstrates is the key to having the gun platforms look as it did on this submarine.

keltos01 · 07-06-09, 02:45 PM

"Narwhal K"

I just cloned a Balao to serve as basis for the in-game Narwhal.

keltos

keltos01 · 07-06-09, 03:09 PM

Balao inside, Narwhal all the way !

keltos

keltos01 · 07-08-09, 10:13 AM

keltos

gimpy117 · 07-08-09, 04:40 PM

finally...looks great!

07-08-09, 05:45 PM

Coming along nicely.

But you still have a few issues.

It could be the hull shape that allows this.
But I think you could cut the area and add a more defined
3D section.

Or add verts and such as needed to define the shapes.
It's just not right in this area yet.

keltos01 · 07-09-09, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Coming along nicely.

But you still have a few issues.

It could be the hull shape that allows this.
But I think you could cut the area and add a more defined
3D section.

Or add verts and such as needed to define the shapes.
It's just not right in this area yet.

I am working on this, have moved (though not visible yet) the forward hatch back a bit too

keltos

keltos01 · 07-09-09, 01:10 AM

tower :

starboard side :

keltos

keltos01 · 07-09-09, 02:20 PM

so since the blueprints don't give the expected effect from :

is this any better ?

I made it using the diameter of the original blueprint, and linked both with a deck. I saw on the blue blueprints that the gun decks were circular, which is normal if you look at german boats etc.. for instance.

keltos

Hitman · 07-09-09, 02:47 PM

It's certainly much better, as the edges look a lot smoother

However, you still have the central part of the platform with a lower width than the deck

--->There should be NO gap at all! Can you make it wider so they both match?

The other point that would need a bit of attention is the hull curvature around the point where the platform meets the hull, as it needs also smoothinga nd looking more like an inverted cone BUT don't touch the gun platform, it's the hull what needs to be tweaked!! The gun platform is correct now, with a vertical wall.

EDITED: The rear gun platform looks already very good, just tweak the hulla round the forward one to make both look the same.

Almost there!!!!

keltos01 · 07-09-09, 03:08 PM

was the guns platform horizontal or parallel to the deck ?

Keltos

Hitman · 07-09-09, 03:11 PM

Sorry? I don't understand the question.

The central part of the gun platform, the one highlighted in pink in your first picture, must be the same width as the deck below. You shouldn't be able to see the deck protruding at the sides of the gun platform, as they align completely.

keltos01 · 07-09-09, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hitman

Sorry? I don't understand the question.

The central part of the gun platform, the one highlighted in pink in your first picture, must be the same width as the deck below. You shouldn't be able to see the deck protruding at the sides of the gun platform, as they align completely.

that part I got.

the main deck is slanted towards the bow.

are the decks for the guns parallel to it, thus slanted also

or are they truly horizontal, but then I guess on the RL picture the rear deck would appear higher.

keltos

07-04-09, 03:44 AM	#166
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07-05-09, 09:12 AM	#168
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Privateer The sharp edges as Privateer describes and demonstrates is the key to having the gun platforms look as it did on this submarine. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

07-06-09, 02:45 PM	#169
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	clone "Narwhal K" I just cloned a Balao to serve as basis for the in-game Narwhal. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-06-09, 03:09 PM	#170
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	Narwhal K v 1.0 Balao inside, Narwhal all the way ! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-08-09, 10:13 AM	#171
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	new textures keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-08-09, 04:40 PM	#172
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07-08-09, 05:45 PM	#173
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Coming along nicely. But you still have a few issues. It could be the hull shape that allows this. But I think you could cut the area and add a more defined 3D section. Or add verts and such as needed to define the shapes. It's just not right in this area yet.

07-09-09, 01:10 AM	#175
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	New texture tower : starboard side : keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-09-09, 02:20 PM	#176
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	deck... so since the blueprints don't give the expected effect from : is this any better ? I made it using the diameter of the original blueprint, and linked both with a deck. I saw on the blue blueprints that the gun decks were circular, which is normal if you look at german boats etc.. for instance. keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships" Last edited by keltos01; 07-09-09 at 02:45 PM.

07-09-09, 02:47 PM	#177
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	It's certainly much better, as the edges look a lot smoother However, you still have the central part of the platform with a lower width than the deck --->There should be NO gap at all! Can you make it wider so they both match? The other point that would need a bit of attention is the hull curvature around the point where the platform meets the hull, as it needs also smoothinga nd looking more like an inverted cone BUT don't touch the gun platform, it's the hull what needs to be tweaked!! The gun platform is correct now, with a vertical wall. EDITED: The rear gun platform looks already very good, just tweak the hulla round the forward one to make both look the same. Almost there!!!! __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

07-09-09, 03:08 PM	#178
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	was the guns platform horizontal or parallel to the deck ? Keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

07-09-09, 03:11 PM	#179
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Sorry? I don't understand the question. The central part of the gun platform, the one highlighted in pink in your first picture, must be the same width as the deck below. You shouldn't be able to see the deck protruding at the sides of the gun platform, as they align completely. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...