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Old 05-12-15, 01:11 AM   #4156
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Dan Jarvis was being suggested for Labour - ex Para, untainted by Blair, Iraq and the rest. He has ruled himself out due to wanting to look after his children and that is probably indirectly a wise move: the next leader will have a hard time, I think (Jarvis can come in later).
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Old 05-12-15, 06:30 AM   #4157
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Chuka Umunna has officially announced that he will standing as the Labour leader.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32706038

@ExFishermanBob shame about Dan Jarvis I think he will have done well, but as you said maybe\hopefully later.
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DAVE: endless repeats of the same old crap you've sat through for the last five years.

Coincidence?
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Old 05-12-15, 06:49 AM   #4159
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There are two problems with Chuka Umunna first he is dark skin, please don't jump all over me shouting raciest I am not. Second problem he is a Muslim, lets say he dose become leader can you see the British voters voting for him? The way the general view point is in the UK I would say Tories will win the 2020 election.
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They've had thirty years of the media decrying socialism as all that is wrong with the world. In a way the mass strikes of the '70s turned public opinion against those who were striking, and then Maggie neutered the Unions and the media did the rest.
Socialism did step over the mark and needed a good slap but as you say Oberon it got almost buried. We do need a left wing party but without going too far. The Labour party needs too find the right balance in modern UK or we will have three party's like Coca~cola.

Coca~cola=Labour
Coca~cola life=LibDems
Coca~cola diet = Tories

Not much point voting for them if they all taste the same apart from the amount of sugar in them.
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Old 05-12-15, 07:07 AM   #4161
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The Farmers Weekly has reported we are truly delighted David Cameron has won and we can now cover our fields in more BS, it should be a bumper five years worth of crops to look forward too.
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Old 05-12-15, 07:38 AM   #4162
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All the council results are now in at long last.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2...sults/councils
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Old 05-12-15, 08:13 AM   #4163
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We do need a left wing party but without going too far.
We could do with a more substantial right wing in Scotland, TBH.

Scots Cons - centre-centre right .
Scots Lib-Dems - centre left
SNP - centre left.
Scots Labour - has to go left of the SNP if it wants to get Glasgow back.
Scots Greens - further left.
Scottish Socialist/Radical Independence Campaign - further left still.

I think you can see the problem - no balance!

In the meantime, SLAB's meltdown continues:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2...tland-32671401

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2...tland-32703365

I wonder how many knives will fit in Jim Murphy's back?

Not that I have any sympathy for him or SLAB - they brought it on themselves!

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Can you imagine the pandemonium in the bars and cafe's in Westminster.
56 Scottish MP's trying to use Scottish Pound Notes!
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'David Cameron addresses his Cabinet' - are you telling me 13 million people voted for a nutter who talks to his furniture?
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David Cameron came storming out the toilet saying why don't we have immigrants to wipe my bum! Theresa May said there on their way.
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And here comes Tory time:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32714802

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The measures are also expected to introduce banning orders for extremist organisations who use hate speech in public places, but whose activities fall short of it being proscribed as a terror group.
According to details given by Mrs May at last year's Conservative Party conference, such orders would apply if ministers "reasonably believe" a group intended to incite religious or racial hatred, to threaten democracy, or if there was a pressing need to protect the public from harm, either from a risk of violence, public disorder, harassment or other criminal acts.
Gee...you don't think that that is going to get used against anti-austerity protestors do you?

Bloody idiots, their ineptitude has killed more British civilians than radical Islam has.
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^^
And that is just for starters, just wait while they get going good and proper
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Looks like I'm off to prison chaps as I hate the Tories 100% and let off steam having a good shout out my window from time to time.

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the government wants to "bring people together to ensure we are living together as one society".
Together in one society from the party that has done a good job dividing people!



Slight change of subject but also shows the Tories up..

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The reforms would mean turnout for such a vote must be at least 50% while walkouts must have the support of 40% of workers eligible to vote.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/government..._ylv=3#I7Pck3p

This is from a government that got 36.9% share of the vote! In my way of thinking I don't think they have any right to pass new laws.
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Old 05-13-15, 06:30 AM   #4170
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Green Party leader Natalie Bennett has suggested she would be "happy" to work with Ukip to push for electoral reform.
The Greens received 1.1 million votes at the general election, while Ukip finished with almost four million - but both parties ended up with just one MP each.
After the results came in, Ms Bennett and Ukip leader Nigel Farage - who both failed to win a seat - spoke of their frustration at the first-past-the-post system.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/greens-pon...5.html#wLNRPcw

The FPTP system is without question out of date and time for it too go. It's no longer a three party race it's a six party race.
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