UK Politics Thread - Page 690

Jimbuna · 07-04-19, 09:01 AM

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The two Tory leadership candidates have been challenged to bring forward plans to tackle the social care crisis in England if they become prime minister.

A committee of peers has called for an immediate £8bn cash increase and a move to a free, NHS-based system.

Jeremy Hunt has pledged more council funding and an opt-out insurance system for people to save for future care.

Boris Johnson says more money should be found, with policy worked out according to a cross-party plan.

Meanwhile, councils say the government's delayed plans on elderly care should be published by September at the latest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48855645

The social care issue is the only one that is greater than Brexit so it will be interesting to see what 'promises' are made.

ikalugin · 07-04-19, 10:10 AM

I derped by posting it in the wrong place. This was about the curious schematic being mentioned in relation to the recent Russian submarine fire.

Can the mods please move it?

MGR1 · 07-04-19, 10:47 AM

Oops:

Brexit is the priority even if UK splits, Nigel Farage tells Robert Peston

Now we know. For Farage it appears that Brexit may actually mean Engxit, from both the EU and the UK....

Rather makes sense, actually. In his pre-EU election hustings in Edinburgh he actively courted Eurosceptic pro-Indy types for whom independence means independence (Guardian article from the time):

Scotland won't be independent within EU, says Farage

I wouldn't say I'm a diehard Unionist (too many negative connotations - sectarianism for starters) but I think this highlights the disconnect between general public opinion in England, for whom the Union would be nice, but don't believe in forcing the home nations to stay together, and Unionists in both Scotland and Northern Ireland, for whom the Union is sacrosanct and shall never be broken for any reason.

Not sure how that can be dealt with.

Mike.

Catfish · 07-05-19, 01:30 AM

Farrago would be nothing without project fear (immigration) or the subsequent brexit.
His whole claim to power is based only on this.

How anyone can expect any other visions or future plans is beyond me

JU_88 · 07-05-19, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Farrago would be nothing without project fear (immigration) or the subsequent brexit.
His whole claim to power is based only on this.

How anyone can expect any other visions or future plans is beyond me

..and because Cons and Labour are trucking useless morons.

Jimbuna · 07-05-19, 05:53 AM

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Chancellor Philip Hammond has told the BBC he and other MPs will "find a way" of blocking a no-deal Brexit.

He told Radio 4's Political Thinking Podcast he would personally oppose leaving the EU without a legal agreement on 31 October.

He warned Theresa May's successor as prime minister not to "sideline" MPs, saying this would be "shocking".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48874144

Whether you support his viewpoint or not it would appear the chancellors days are numbered.

Platapus · 07-05-19, 10:21 AM

Serious question for our Brit members.

How big of a deal is the private christening ceremony for Archie?

I am wondering if the media is manufacturing a big deal out of this just to have a big deal to report.

JU_88 · 07-05-19, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Serious question for our Brit members.

How big of a deal is the private christening ceremony for Archie?

I am wondering if the media is manufacturing a big deal out of this just to have a big deal to report.

I've not heard much about it, but then i skip over anything about the royals. because unless one of them has died, i don't consider it news.

Like the Dad who took his son to a MickeyD's and got a parking fine....
...Not news

Or the Woman who took her sons Pink T shirt back to the shop because
her husband hated it
....Not news.

Opinion Pieces from the Guardian are fun to read though - just to watch our preachy 'woke' cosmopolitan middle class overlords drown them selves in their own narcissism.
piece after piece on how every facet of the world revolves around race and gender and why you are probably a terrible person.
..... And yet they still cant comprehend why their ideology is slowly dying.

STEED · 07-05-19, 04:21 PM

As a Republican all I want to see the end of the royals, lords, dukes, dames and all the bloody rest of them. Not forgetting bloody career politicians and the bloody BBC and the EU.

JU_88 · 07-05-19, 04:58 PM

I don't wish death on the BBC but I don't agree with the way they are funded.

its been clear since around 2012 that The EU is going to fail in the long run,
people say it just needs some reform but I doubt it can be reformed. Its model and ambitions are too rigid.
And plus the Kind of reforms needed to appease its growing skeptics would render its existence pointless anyway.

You only need to see that clip of Guy Verhofstadt screaming about member states refusing to relinquish further powers over to the Union, to realize its toast.
Seeing someone throw a tantrum like that, tells you they have already lost.

STEED · 07-05-19, 05:33 PM

I hope what I know from pensioner's around here have said the BBC can drop dead next year is reprocated up and down the land. Serve the bloody PIG BBC right, what are they going to do? Prosecute pensioner's that will go down well.

STEED · 07-06-19, 04:02 AM

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Some Conservative members have been issued with more than one ballot paper to vote for the next party leader and prime minister, the BBC has learned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48890803

So what!...

I bet the voting papers look like this...

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CONSERVATIVE LEADERSHIP ELECTION 2019

Boris Johnson

Jeremy Hunt

Jimbuna · 07-06-19, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

As a Republican all I want to see the end of the royals, lords, dukes, dames and all the bloody rest of them. Not forgetting bloody career politicians and the bloody BBC and the EU.

For someone who purports to hate the BBC so much, isn't it a little ironic you visit their site and use their material so much?

Jimbuna · 07-06-19, 04:55 AM

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Some Conservative members have been issued with more than one ballot paper to vote for the next party leader and prime minister, the BBC has learned.

One party insider estimated that more than a thousand voters could be affected.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48890803

I can here the wheels of a post election result investigation grinding into motion already.

STEED · 07-06-19, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

For someone who purports to hate the BBC so much, isn't it a little ironic you visit their site and use their material so much?

You don't trust SKY.

I had a visit from some one acting on behalf of the BBC asking me do I own a TV? No I have a monitor for watching my DVD's and he said I was breaking the law! He demanded to come in, he was acting like a verbal thug in my book and I told him to go away and get a warrant. I get nasty letters whom can not get in their thick skulls I'm not breaking the law but the BBC thinks I am.

About bloody time the BBC got its money from adverts.

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ15

PS. Just to add its gone quite for a few months but I know they will try it on again sooner or latter.

07-04-19, 10:10 AM	#10337
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	I derped by posting it in the wrong place. This was about the curious schematic being mentioned in relation to the recent Russian submarine fire. Can the mods please move it? __________________ Grumpy as always.

07-04-19, 10:47 AM	#10338
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 957 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	Oops: Brexit is the priority even if UK splits, Nigel Farage tells Robert Peston Now we know. For Farage it appears that Brexit may actually mean Engxit, from both the EU and the UK.... Rather makes sense, actually. In his pre-EU election hustings in Edinburgh he actively courted Eurosceptic pro-Indy types for whom independence means independence (Guardian article from the time): Scotland won't be independent within EU, says Farage I wouldn't say I'm a diehard Unionist (too many negative connotations - sectarianism for starters) but I think this highlights the disconnect between general public opinion in England, for whom the Union would be nice, but don't believe in forcing the home nations to stay together, and Unionists in both Scotland and Northern Ireland, for whom the Union is *sacrosanct and shall never be broken for any reason*. Not sure how that can be dealt with. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

07-05-19, 01:30 AM	#10339
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,898 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Farrago would be nothing without project fear (immigration) or the subsequent brexit. His whole claim to power is based only on this. How anyone can expect any other visions or future plans is beyond me __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,975 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Serious question for our Brit members. How big of a deal is the private christening ceremony for Archie? I am wondering if the media is manufacturing a big deal out of this just to have a big deal to report. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-05-19, 04:21 PM	#10344
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	As a Republican all I want to see the end of the royals, lords, dukes, dames and all the bloody rest of them. Not forgetting bloody career politicians and the bloody BBC and the EU. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I don't wish death on the BBC but I don't agree with the way they are funded. its been clear since around 2012 that The EU is going to fail in the long run, people say it just needs some reform but I doubt it can be reformed. Its model and ambitions are too rigid. And plus the Kind of reforms needed to appease its growing skeptics would render its existence pointless anyway. You only need to see that clip of Guy Verhofstadt screaming about member states refusing to relinquish further powers over to the Union, to realize its toast. Seeing someone throw a tantrum like that, tells you they have already lost. Last edited by JU_88; 07-05-19 at 05:09 PM.

07-05-19, 05:33 PM	#10346
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I hope what I know from pensioner's around here have said the BBC can drop dead next year is reprocated up and down the land. Serve the bloody PIG BBC right, what are they going to do? Prosecute pensioner's that will go down well. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!