Kerbal Space Program - Page 11

Lionclaw · 12-22-12, 03:19 PM

Just doing some testing of the Duna Explorer, just to see that it works.
If it works on Duna is another matter.

Gargamel · 12-22-12, 07:29 PM

arrrghh.... cant get my paypal account renistated fast enough..... lol

sooo many issues w/ .13....... need real thing......

12-22-12, 07:42 PM

.13?

Gee... you´ll get a heart attack of happiness when you fire up 18.2... its like a new game! And worth every penny...

wamphyri · 12-23-12, 06:50 PM

It really is worth it. My only issue is I'm of the the ppl getting the "crash on second launch" bug. I either have to turn the graphics all the way down or it'll crash if I launch something, go back into the vehicle assembly bay, then try to launch something else.

Edit: Solved it, just had to reinstall my video card drivers.

Penguin · 12-25-12, 05:07 PM

Finally managed to bring my core station, Big Bender into an stable orbit.
I didn't expect that upon decoupling, Bender became debris. I thought an ASAS would be sufficent to let it be controled. Apparently I forgot to put a command part on it.

As Bender is basically a huge fuel-tank, I had to put him between the stages rather than on top of the rocket, where he loved to wobble around uncontrollably.

CCIP · 12-25-12, 05:30 PM

...is that...

Why yes it is. Well there's one thing I didn't expect in space

Gargamel · 12-26-12, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

.13?

Gee... you´ll get a heart attack of happiness when you fire up 18.2... its like a new game! And worth every penny...

Yes bought it the other day.

But..... my laptop can barely handle it. Loading to launch pad takes longer than SH3 w/ GWX

.

I'm going to rebuild my gaming rig soon (Don't ask how my Raid 5 array fried, just dont), so that should solve those issues.

I've gotten to where I can get a fairly circular orbit (+- 750m @ 85,000m).

Next onto parking into a specific orbit, to setup for rendezvous.

12-26-12, 04:50 PM

Wow that sounds horrible. I would die in agony if KSP would load so long for me. Specially when you just forget a tiny detail and want to just restart...

Out of curiosity... How did your Raid 5 array got fried?

Takeda Shingen · 12-26-12, 05:02 PM

Kerbal loading times are very quick for me. In fact, I've logged a considerable amount of time in-game over the past few weeks and haven't had a single glitch. Phenominal for a game in alpha.

Gargamel · 12-26-12, 05:51 PM

It's definitely my machine, which is below the recommended specs, so what do you expect? I have to make course corrections in map mode, as the lag is too great in any other view.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Out of curiosity... How did your Raid 5 array got fried?

NeonSamurai · 12-27-12, 02:15 AM

What I have learned about designing aircraft in KSP....

First of all throw out just about everything you may know about aircraft design, most of it doesn't apply here.

Always try to put your center of lift on or close to your center of gravity (this makes the aircraft far more stable and control-ably agile in the air)

Canards are the spawn of satan, particularly on small craft (unless you really like flipping over and over and over out of control most of the time)

Learn all the controls for building, particularly the one that rotates parts by 5 degree notches (hint it involves the shift key)

Don't be afraid to layer your wings right on top of each other, the game doesn't care about aerodynamics much (I actually ignored this craft for about 15 minutes and it was still flying on it's own, just was doing slow loops over and over and over)

landing gear can be a royal pain (particularly with one size, small) and can cause your aircraft to skitter around/crash on the runway during takeoff/landing if placed wrong. It is also difficult to place them without making it very likely you will tail-slap the runway

Ailerons are useless to super dangerous. They tend to interfere with climbing and diving, and make your plane hyper sensitive in rolls as the game does not separate the two and will use ailerons to climb and elevators to roll (for example with this plane, which I use as an example of a well built plane below, I could not get off the ground once I put on ailerons).

Fuel drains from front to back, which can seriously unbalance your aircraft as you fly. You pretty much have to manually transfer fuel forward in flight, or design your craft so that the fuel is mostly in line and drains inward using pipes

This for example would be a well designed plane, it is very stable and balanced and has good control characteristics.

It is made out of:
1 mk1 cockpit
4 mk1 fuselage
3 small gear bay
2 delta wing
2 structural pylon
2 xm-g50 radial air intake
3 av-r8 winglet

So why would you want to use planes and not rockets? Well they are incredibly fuel efficient, and very cheap to use and they can be made 100% reusable.

Downsides though is that the selection of stock parts is pathetic (get mods), and these are the most difficult to design type of craft in the game.

12-27-12, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Kerbal loading times are very quick for me. In fact, I've logged a considerable amount of time in-game over the past few weeks and haven't had a single glitch. Phenominal for a game in alpha.

They really work hard to make this game the best it can be. I love the team. Its like every month or two is a new big update and its like christmas all over again

Anything thats majorly broken they fix ASAP and get it out there.

Gargamel · 01-05-13, 12:07 AM

I've tweaked the settings to the absolute minimums, and the ship is now flyable in '3d' view, but map view is so much smoother, I do most of the steering from that view.

Couple questions:

Is there an autopilot mod? Or some feature I'm not seeing? I'd like ot specify a certain orbit, and have the computer do it for me. I can circularize my orbit, but not very well.

Mass Fraction? In the payloader tool, it says 95-99 MF is normal, 90-95 is either super effecient or wrong, <90 isnt going anywhere. I just orbited a 9.5t payload at a MF of .863. Am I not understanding MF correctly, or did I just hit the jackpot with a great design?

seaniam81 · 01-05-13, 01:09 AM

look up MechJeb. It's the autopilot your looking for.

Gargamel · 01-06-13, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seaniam81

look up MechJeb. It's the autopilot your looking for.

Cant get it to install?

Unzipped the 3 folders to the correct spots, I think, but I see no difference in the game.... any help?

12-22-12, 07:29 PM	#152
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,272 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	arrrghh.... cant get my paypal account renistated fast enough..... lol sooo many issues w/ .13....... need real thing...... __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

12-23-12, 06:50 PM	#154
wamphyri Lieutenant Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lethbridge, Alberta Posts: 260 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	It really is worth it. My only issue is I'm of the the ppl getting the "crash on second launch" bug. I either have to turn the graphics all the way down or it'll crash if I launch something, go back into the vehicle assembly bay, then try to launch something else. Edit: Solved it, just had to reinstall my video card drivers. Last edited by wamphyri; 12-23-12 at 08:53 PM.

12-25-12, 05:30 PM	#156
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	...is that... Why yes it is. Well there's one thing I didn't expect in space __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

12-27-12, 02:15 AM	#161
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	What I have learned about designing aircraft in KSP.... First of all throw out just about everything you may know about aircraft design, most of it doesn't apply here. Always try to put your center of lift on or close to your center of gravity (this makes the aircraft far more stable and control-ably agile in the air) Canards are the spawn of satan, particularly on small craft (unless you really like flipping over and over and over out of control most of the time) Learn all the controls for building, particularly the one that rotates parts by 5 degree notches (hint it involves the shift key) Don't be afraid to layer your wings right on top of each other, the game doesn't care about aerodynamics much (I actually ignored this craft for about 15 minutes and it was still flying on it's own, just was doing slow loops over and over and over) landing gear can be a royal pain (particularly with one size, small) and can cause your aircraft to skitter around/crash on the runway during takeoff/landing if placed wrong. It is also difficult to place them without making it very likely you will tail-slap the runway Ailerons are useless to super dangerous. They tend to interfere with climbing and diving, and make your plane hyper sensitive in rolls as the game does not separate the two and will use ailerons to climb and elevators to roll (for example with this plane, which I use as an example of a well built plane below, I could not get off the ground once I put on ailerons). Fuel drains from front to back, which can seriously unbalance your aircraft as you fly. You pretty much have to manually transfer fuel forward in flight, or design your craft so that the fuel is mostly in line and drains inward using pipes This for example would be a well designed plane, it is very stable and balanced and has good control characteristics. It is made out of: 1 mk1 cockpit 4 mk1 fuselage 3 small gear bay 2 delta wing 2 structural pylon 2 xm-g50 radial air intake 3 av-r8 winglet So why would you want to use planes and not rockets? Well they are incredibly fuel efficient, and very cheap to use and they can be made 100% reusable. Downsides though is that the selection of stock parts is pathetic (get mods), and these are the most difficult to design type of craft in the game. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

01-05-13, 12:07 AM	#163
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,272 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	I've tweaked the settings to the absolute minimums, and the ship is now flyable in '3d' view, but map view is so much smoother, I do most of the steering from that view. Couple questions: Is there an autopilot mod? Or some feature I'm not seeing? I'd like ot specify a certain orbit, and have the computer do it for me. I can circularize my orbit, but not very well. Mass Fraction? In the payloader tool, it says 95-99 MF is normal, 90-95 is either super effecient or wrong, <90 isnt going anywhere. I just orbited a 9.5t payload at a MF of .863. Am I not understanding MF correctly, or did I just hit the jackpot with a great design? __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

12-22-12, 03:19 PM	#151
Lionclaw Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,006 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Just doing some testing of the Duna Explorer, just to see that it works. If it works on Duna is another matter.

12-22-12, 07:42 PM	#153
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	.13? Gee... you´ll get a heart attack of happiness when you fire up 18.2... its like a new game! And worth every penny...

12-25-12, 05:07 PM	#155
Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Finally managed to bring my core station, Big Bender into an stable orbit. I didn't expect that upon decoupling, Bender became debris. I thought an ASAS would be sufficent to let it be controled. Apparently I forgot to put a command part on it. As Bender is basically a huge fuel-tank, I had to put him between the stages rather than on top of the rocket, where he loved to wobble around uncontrollably.

12-26-12, 04:50 PM	#158
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Wow that sounds horrible. I would die in agony if KSP would load so long for me. Specially when you just forget a tiny detail and want to just restart... Out of curiosity... How did your Raid 5 array got fried?

12-26-12, 05:02 PM	#159
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Kerbal loading times are very quick for me. In fact, I've logged a considerable amount of time in-game over the past few weeks and haven't had a single glitch. Phenominal for a game in alpha.

01-05-13, 01:09 AM	#164
seaniam81 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 624 Downloads: 87 Uploads: 0	look up MechJeb. It's the autopilot your looking for. __________________ Ultima ratio regum. (The final argument of kings) - Inscription on french cannons, on order of Louis XIV