UK Politics Thread

[ikalugin]

https://theferret.scot/alarm-steep-r...clear-convoys/

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Originally Posted by Skybird

We are EU. You must get assimiliated. Resistence is futile.

Or must be shown to be futile.

Or in other words: either you play our game, or you shall play none. That simple.

OBEY THE EU WORSHIP THE EU OR BE EXTERMINATED

[Skybird]

Also, do not froget that Germany is Germany - a country were people hate to be what they are - Germans - , and that has written the self-dissolving of itself as sovereign nation written into its constitution. No other european country is as obsessed by this, as the Germans. We will never forgive nor forget the offense of rejecting the EU.

We just have a mini-scandal again: the interior minister dared to demand that in Germany there must be a dominance of and priority for German identity and cultural values. All voices started to breath hectically and started to yell, and denied there is such a thing as a German "Leitkultur". Instead, once again, referring to a hopelessly vague, unattractive, non-meaning referring to general laboratory values without any cultural identity, that should be adopted by all mankind. The Eu has taken over from the UN, it seems.

[STEED]

Vote 2017: Everything you wanted to know and we wanted to ask you

http://news.sky.com/story/vote-2017-...k-you-10860368

So how will you vote in 2017?

I saw the Torries on 50% then refreshed my browser and they were down to 48% did the same again and they were up to 51%.

Oh come off it..

[STEED]

Relax Ed we have a new one..

Theresa May tucks into a cone of chips while campaigning in Cornwall

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3528591.html

[Catfish]

Skybird will soon move to the UK, and tell Mrs May how to deal with 27 'enemies' and make England great again

Seriously, Mrs May has opted for a "hard brexit" back then, whatever that means. The UK will of course leave, but it will as well not be able to keep all benefits the members enjoy. Clear as mud, and not necessary to exaggerate anything. Ah the media.. yes.

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General Election: UKIP will bounce back in the polls, vows Nuttall
Paul Nuttall says UKIP is using its resources sensibly and has a "good chance" of winning seats in the General Election.

http://news.sky.com/story/general-el...ttall-10860594


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Labour's police plans don't add up, even after the corrections
The party says 10,000 extra bobbies would cost £300m, but it seems to have forgotten about inflation and pay increases.

http://news.sky.com/story/labours-po...tions-10860746

Any party that stands no chance getting into government can promise the moon.

[Jimbuna]

If you watch the LBC video clip that was on the news ABBOTT initially said 10,000 officers would cost a total of £300,000

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

If you watch the LBC video clip that was on the news ABBOTT initially said 10,000 officers would cost a total of £300,000

Beat you.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=6390

As for that BS about having 7 or 8 interviews that day it seems she only had 2! Seems like she can not get a dam thing right.

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General Election 2017: Greens pledge second Brexit pollA second referendum on the details of any Brexit deal should be offered to voters, Green Party of England and Wales MP Caroline Lucas has said.
Voters should have the option to remain in the EU if they are unhappy with the result of Brexit talks, she said.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39784314

OH COME ON!...Why stop there lets have non stop referendums on everything we disagree with the government of the day. Typical Green party who have two leaders...Hey here's a idea if the Greens win and we don't like PM lets have a referendum forcing them to try out there other leader.

[Skybird]

The EU now demands an additional 40 billion in administration costs.

If I were the UK, I would dumb all support for counter terrorism cooperation and intel exchange (Europe benefits incredibly much more from the Britons here than the UK benefits from intel feedback from the continent), and withdraw all military support in cooperaiton with Europe, also withdraw the nuclear weapons from the deterrants pool of NATO.

Just to remind the continent a little bit on some extremely important facts. I beleive in reciprocity. If the EU wants to play this ultra-tough and ultra-dirty, give the change in the currency it has choosen.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The EU now demands an additional 40 billion in administration costs.

If I were the UK, I would dumb all support for counter terrorism cooperation and intel exchange (Europe benefits incredibly much more from the Britons here than the UK benefits from intel feedback from the continent), and withdraw all military support in cooperaiton with Europe, also withdraw the nuclear weapons from the deterrants pool of NATO.

Just to remind the continent a little bit on some extremely important facts. I beleive in reciprocity. If the EU wants to play this ultra-tough and ultra-dirty, give the change in the currency it has choosen.

Fully agree Sky, apart from the NATO commitment. The EU will be bolstered if Le Pen loses in France but the UK/May retains her option of simply walking away and hitting the EU with mirror-like tariffs should that be the eventual consequence.

An example of the above could be:

Nissan face lets say a 10% charge on each car exported to the EU.....so BMW face an identical charge for importing each of their cars into the UK.

The EU exports a lot more into the UK than what the UK exports into the EU.

I find it rather strangely amusing that two of the most powerful beaurocrats, those with the biggest say, namely Juncker and Tusk come from net receiving countries....just a coincidence I suppose (meant sarcastically).

The bottom line for me is I believe the EU must make an example of the UK to deter any further countries leaving but common sense will eventually prevail because neither side want or can afford a trade war.

The EU should not try to undermine the resolve of the British people, surely past history should still be fresh in their minds.

Interesting times ahead me thinks.

[Skybird]

Net receivers - and same voting rights like net payers. Most desastrous this works in the ECB's control board, where net receivers now have the decisive majority, no matter what national central bank heads currently is rotating out. Iin generla it is a terrible idea to think that net receivers nevertheless are equipped with the same rights and voting powers like net payers. The schemes the EU has "developed" there to also take population sizes into account, do not work well. Some would even say they are dysfunctional alltogether.

Malta for example represents 0.1% of the blocks' economic power or so. What a strengthening and enrichment for the union!

One really has to discriminate here, and have levelled membership rights and voting powers according to own total contributions. Its only natural that economic heavyweights with bigger contributions and more investments at stake shiuld have more influence, at least tiny net receivers should not have the power to enforce net payers to pay for them and demand them to pay ever more. It cannot be that one nation representing one thousandth of the continent's economic power shares almost the same power like a nation that represents lets say one fifth of the block's power. That is insane.

France and Germany already said they do not want to compensate for the financial gap the UK leaves behind. I fear this will serve as an excuse to push even harder for the long-wanted special EU-tax that all European subjects mandatorily will have to pay - additionally.

And this to us poor germans that were found recently to be the second-most-taxed population in word-wide comparison, nowhere else except Belgium, I think you - as a pirvate perosn and ordinary household - have to pay as much taxes and mandatory social fees, than in Germany. And it becomes more and more. At the same time the private wealth and property index shows that Spaniards, Italians, French and Britions all own very much more material assets and stocks per individual household. And what our government invests in foreign places, mainly is no material investements, but paper investment (financial "products"), that means in case of a financial collapse and money loosing its value, all these "investements" will be lost, while other nation'S governments still own factories, land, licenses, etc. Another meaning of the term "stupid German money".

Germany is stupid, and servile. (Thats why I do not defend it and am with the UK in this divorce. I cannot stand servility and stupidity).

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Germany is stupid, and servile. (Thats why I do not defend it and am with the UK in this divorce. I cannot stand servility and stupidity).

Spoken like a true Brit