[WIP] Japanese Merchant Marine - Page 21

Fish40 · 09-15-10, 05:28 PM

I was just wondering, will this need to be installed while in port?

If so, I need to get back within the next week or two.

tater · 09-15-10, 06:00 PM

As for most mods, yes.

Unless there is a simple solution to the shimmering, 2 weeks might be optimistic.

virtualpender · 09-17-10, 09:58 AM

Hitman - I found out there were significantly more (maybe more than double) the number of AMAKASU MARU's as ONI knew about. This is great news and it makes it an even more desirable ship to add.

I also found a very good overhead image of a model of the class. I hope this photo is not too late to be helpful:

Tater - Note the extra deck added over the bridge roof as a gun platform. You can see this in several of the photos posted previously. I'm not sure if it would be possible to model as an EQP object but this modification was made mid-war. Would it be possible to have that additional deck appear late '42 / early '43 automatically in game?

tater · 09-17-10, 10:04 AM

Yeah, easy if we build it as a separate object. I have a "gun platforms" dat for just that purpose.

virtualpender · 09-17-10, 10:08 AM

Actually, I just figured out - it isn't a new gun deck - they just cut the roof off the open-air bridge. So if possible, the base model should stop at the deckhouse overhead and have two interchangable bridges - one covered with helm for 41/42 and another open air gun platform with AA machineguns and searchlamps for 43-end of war.

I hope this is practical and doesn't overly complicate Hitman's task.

tater · 09-17-10, 10:25 AM

I have PLANS for Choun Maru, actually. I have more images as well.

Hitman · 09-17-10, 02:18 PM

Quote:

I also found a very good overhead image of a model of the class. I hope this photo is not too late to be helpful:

It isn't at all, this image was just what I needed wooot!

Quote:

I have PLANS for Choun Maru, actually. I have more images as well.

So what are you waiting for, before uploading them?

virtualpender · 09-17-10, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

I've been rereading War in the Boats (because it is such a good book). It is July, 1944, and Crevalle is attacking a large merchant ship. Ruhe makes a point of saying the target must be a naval auxiliary due to her grey paint job...

The clear implication is that other ships in the convoy were NOT all painted in that fashion. The plus for JMM is that we have loads of civilian skins, so perhaps I might make them persist longer, and in greater numbers than I have right now.

Tater - do you think that the other ships were possibly painting in the two-tone green anti-sub camouflage rather than grey? Maybe I'm being stubborn but I just can't wrap my head around any of the few remaining merchantmen still retaining their pre-war livery as late as 1944. Not trying to be difficult, just tossing out an alternate theory.

tater · 09-17-10, 03:11 PM

Yeah, I was thinking the same and asked some people who know better than me

BTW:

tater · 09-17-10, 03:13 PM

Hitman · 09-17-10, 03:20 PM

Excellent!

So it seems we are going to get a small merchant, a small tanker, and even a gunboat with minimal modifications from this Amakasu hull

and all were built by dozens

This

tater · 09-17-10, 03:28 PM

It was also the model for the Type 2D.

Armistead · 09-17-10, 06:35 PM

This is so long overdue and glad you took your skin mod so much further.

Hope we see it soon....

tater · 09-17-10, 06:49 PM

If we could sort out the damage shimmer, I'd push hard for a release candidate.

virtualpender · 09-17-10, 07:02 PM

A few more for you, Hitman:

And for anyone who wants to see the inspiration Hitman is using. Just keep in mind that roster of named hulls should be over twice as long.

09-17-10, 03:20 PM	#311
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Excellent! So it seems we are going to get a small merchant, a small tanker, and even a gunboat with minimal modifications from this Amakasu hull and all were built by dozens This __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

09-15-10, 05:28 PM	#301
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I was just wondering, will this need to be installed while in port? If so, I need to get back within the next week or two.

09-15-10, 06:00 PM	#302
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	As for most mods, yes. Unless there is a simple solution to the shimmering, 2 weeks might be optimistic.

09-17-10, 09:58 AM	#303
virtualpender Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 381 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	Hitman - I found out there were significantly more (maybe more than double) the number of AMAKASU MARU's as ONI knew about. This is great news and it makes it an even more desirable ship to add. I also found a very good overhead image of a model of the class. I hope this photo is not too late to be helpful: Tater - Note the extra deck added over the bridge roof as a gun platform. You can see this in several of the photos posted previously. I'm not sure if it would be possible to model as an EQP object but this modification was made mid-war. Would it be possible to have that additional deck appear late '42 / early '43 automatically in game?

09-17-10, 10:04 AM	#304
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, easy if we build it as a separate object. I have a "gun platforms" dat for just that purpose.

09-17-10, 10:08 AM	#305
virtualpender Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 381 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	Actually, I just figured out - it isn't a new gun deck - they just cut the roof off the open-air bridge. So if possible, the base model should stop at the deckhouse overhead and have two interchangable bridges - one covered with helm for 41/42 and another open air gun platform with AA machineguns and searchlamps for 43-end of war. I hope this is practical and doesn't overly complicate Hitman's task.

09-17-10, 10:25 AM	#306
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I have PLANS for Choun Maru, actually. I have more images as well.

09-17-10, 03:11 PM	#309
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, I was thinking the same and asked some people who know better than me BTW:

09-17-10, 03:13 PM	#310
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2

09-17-10, 03:28 PM	#312
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	It was also the model for the Type 2D.

09-17-10, 06:35 PM	#313
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	This is so long overdue and glad you took your skin mod so much further. Hope we see it soon....

09-17-10, 06:49 PM	#314
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	If we could sort out the damage shimmer, I'd push hard for a release candidate.

09-17-10, 07:02 PM	#315
virtualpender Sonar Guy Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 381 Downloads: 281 Uploads: 0	A few more for you, Hitman: And for anyone who wants to see the inspiration Hitman is using. Just keep in mind that roster of named hulls should be over twice as long.