Pics or Drawings Needed

Dale1957 · 08-23-10, 08:39 AM

during ww2 the USN received four 70 ft scott-paine mtb's from the canadian powerboat co. they were bound for the dutch navy,but when holland fell,they were reverse leased to us. they were numbered pt 368-371. there is limited info on the web and I can't find any pics or drawings of them.can anybody help me? thanks

Dowly · 08-23-10, 09:31 AM

Quicks search says the boats you mention were vosper class, so here you go:

http://www.google.fi/images?hl=fi&q=...og&sa=N&tab=wi

Info off the different boats in service in USN:
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/ships-pt.html

Dale1957 · 08-23-10, 09:40 AM

thanks for the info,but I think that's incorrect. these boats were scott-paine designs,not vospers. your second search say's they were from CPB and scott-paine.

Dowly · 08-23-10, 09:52 AM

Right you are.

This is the only picture I found off the SP/PT-368 70' class MTB

Dale1957 · 08-23-10, 11:08 AM

hi dowly.something's wrong,there's no pic there.

Dowly · 08-23-10, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale1957

hi dowly.something's wrong,there's no pic there.

Don't know why it disappeared, prolly due to hotlinking, here's the pic on my photobucket account.

EDIT: Now I see the earlier image too.

Dale1957 · 08-23-10, 01:05 PM

yeah,i've seen that one.i'm looking for side profile shots.drawings would be better. thanks anyway.

Dowly · 08-23-10, 01:08 PM

Hopefully you find what you're looking for.

vienna · 08-23-10, 05:17 PM

I don't know if this is of any help since it isn't really specific to the Dutch navy mtb's, but this is a pdf from a Hong Kong source about "Scott-Paine" mtbs: http://www.hongkongescape.org/images/HK/The%202nd%20MTB%20Flotilla.pdf. I found a site (http://www.cww2.net/bbs/simple/index.php?t84590.html) that has detailed drawings of mtb's and their fittings and armament; it is, however, in Chinese but, if you use Goggle, the translate function will give you a fair grasp of what is written (it is not much worse than the oddly translated instructions one gets with asian imported goods). There is also a catalogue (http://www.model-dockyard.com/acatalog/catalogue.pdf) that lists on page 53 [bottom left column] model builing plans for a "Canadian Power Boat 70 x 20ft. Scott-Paine design" mtb. Plans for various mtb's, including some for "Scott-Paine" 70-foot versions are available from this catalog. As a suggestion, perhaps you may find info by searching for the class of mtb (TM-22) or by individual mtb/ptb numbers:

TM-32 = PT-368
TM-35 = PT-369
TM-36 = PT-370
TM-37 = PT-371

I hope some of this is helpful to you.

Dale1957 · 08-24-10, 09:03 AM

thanks vienna.i'll give it a shot.

Dale1957 · 08-24-10, 09:42 AM

sorry vienna, your info could not help me although the model dockyard catalog had alot of fittings for model boats/ships.did a search for TM-32 class mtb and found info but no pics.back to the drawing board!

ps, the boats i'm looking for were launched in 1942.

vienna · 08-25-10, 01:16 PM

Dale1957,

I found this forum site and topic:

http://www.marinematen.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1439&t=990.

It is in Dutch, but Goole will translate it for you. It has a bit more info on the TM-22 Class boats and has a few photos of the construction of the boats including a 3/4 view of the engine.

BTW, you will have to register on the forum (it's free) to view the post..

edit: There is another post:

http://www.marinematen.com/phpBB3/vi...+Company#p3633

This one has a 3/4 view of what is described as "TM-37" under construction side by side with other boats.

Dale1957 · 08-25-10, 03:07 PM

thanks man.

vienna · 08-25-10, 03:18 PM

Glad to help.

Dale1957 · 08-25-10, 03:54 PM

vienna, I was able to register and log in,but much of this site is still in dutch although I clicked on the "translate to english" button.I found it difficult to navigate.oh well. you tried!.

08-23-10, 08:39 AM	#1
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Pics or Drawings Needed during ww2 the USN received four 70 ft scott-paine mtb's from the canadian powerboat co. they were bound for the dutch navy,but when holland fell,they were reverse leased to us. they were numbered pt 368-371. there is limited info on the web and I can't find any pics or drawings of them.can anybody help me? thanks

08-24-10, 09:42 AM	#11
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	sorry vienna, your info could not help me although the model dockyard catalog had alot of fittings for model boats/ships.did a search for TM-32 class mtb and found info but no pics.back to the drawing board!ps, the boats i'm looking for were launched in 1942.

08-23-10, 09:31 AM	#2
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Quicks search says the boats you mention were vosper class, so here you go: http://www.google.fi/images?hl=fi&q=...og&sa=N&tab=wi Info off the different boats in service in USN: http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/ships-pt.html

08-23-10, 09:40 AM	#3
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	thanks for the info,but I think that's incorrect. these boats were scott-paine designs,not vospers. your second search say's they were from CPB and scott-paine.

08-23-10, 09:52 AM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Right you are. This is the only picture I found off the SP/PT-368 70' class MTB

08-23-10, 11:08 AM	#5
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	hi dowly.something's wrong,there's no pic there.

08-23-10, 01:05 PM	#7
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	yeah,i've seen that one.i'm looking for side profile shots.drawings would be better. thanks anyway.

08-23-10, 01:08 PM	#8
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Hopefully you find what you're looking for.

08-23-10, 05:17 PM	#9
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,507 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I don't know if this is of any help since it isn't really specific to the Dutch navy mtb's, but this is a pdf from a Hong Kong source about "Scott-Paine" mtbs: http://www.hongkongescape.org/images/HK/The%202nd%20MTB%20Flotilla.pdf. I found a site (http://www.cww2.net/bbs/simple/index.php?t84590.html) that has detailed drawings of mtb's and their fittings and armament; it is, however, in Chinese but, if you use Goggle, the translate function will give you a fair grasp of what is written (it is not much worse than the oddly translated instructions one gets with asian imported goods). There is also a catalogue (http://www.model-dockyard.com/acatalog/catalogue.pdf) that lists on page 53 [bottom left column] model builing plans for a "Canadian Power Boat 70 x 20ft. Scott-Paine design" mtb. Plans for various mtb's, including some for "Scott-Paine" 70-foot versions are available from this catalog. As a suggestion, perhaps you may find info by searching for the class of mtb (TM-22) or by individual mtb/ptb numbers: TM-32 = PT-368 TM-35 = PT-369 TM-36 = PT-370 TM-37 = PT-371 I hope some of this is helpful to you.

08-24-10, 09:03 AM	#10
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	thanks vienna.i'll give it a shot.

08-25-10, 01:16 PM	#12
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,507 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Dale1957, I found this forum site and topic: http://www.marinematen.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1439&t=990. It is in Dutch, but Goole will translate it for you. It has a bit more info on the TM-22 Class boats and has a few photos of the construction of the boats including a 3/4 view of the engine. BTW, you will have to register on the forum (it's free) to view the post.. edit: There is another post: http://www.marinematen.com/phpBB3/vi...+Company#p3633 This one has a 3/4 view of what is described as "TM-37" under construction side by side with other boats.

08-25-10, 03:07 PM	#13
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	thanks man.

08-25-10, 03:18 PM	#14
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,507 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Glad to help.

08-25-10, 03:54 PM	#15
Dale1957 Machinist's Mate Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Herndon,Virginia Posts: 121 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	vienna, I was able to register and log in,but much of this site is still in dutch although I clicked on the "translate to english" button.I found it difficult to navigate.oh well. you tried!.