[REL] Operation Monsun

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by othr

That makes no sense, the eagle is of great significance to the Polish people and would definitely not be allowed on a German boat. Trust me, that emblem cannot possibly, under no circumstances, be a uboat emblem.

P.S. And it's not poland, it's Poland.

The uboat emblems had nothing to do with politics. Even if some did, this emblem seems to have been used bu Kptlt. Wolfgang Lüth on U 181, arguably one of the most successful subs of the war. Let me tell you, if the germans had put the Romanian Royal Eagle on one of their subs, I'd be using it in game with honor. Actually, I think I'll make one myself I know what you'll say, that Poland was invaded while Romania was an Axis ally (a reluctant one at best). But WW1 almost brought the destruction of Romania at the hands of the Germans and the Hapsburgs. So why don't you leave the politics aside and accept that a sub used in the Pacific wore the emblem of Poznan?

Romanian Knight's Cross with the Hohenzollern Eagle.

[MadDog09]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

1.AirS_Visual = Single Engine Aircraft or Short Range Twin Engine Aircraft

2.AirB_Visual = Bombers or Patrol Aircraft

3.If you failed to change the MinSurface = 0 on BOTH sensor nodes your going to get spotted.

4.This concept was developed for TMO a very long time ago.


Also If you dont like the way torpedoes work then go to Torpedo.sim and change it to suit your taste

Nothing works!
It´s like there is no water for Aircrafts. All Planes can spott your sub from very far distances (>12km) even when you submerged below 50m.

Can someone fix that BUG please????

[looney]

Originally Posted by othr

That makes no sense, the eagle is of great significance to the Polish people and would definitely not be allowed on a German boat. Trust me, that emblem cannot possibly, under no circumstances, be a uboat emblem.

P.S. And it's not poland, it's Poland.

1st of all sorry for the lack of the use of the capital P in Poland.


2nd I have no idea about the origin of the eagle in Poland, I do know that Germany was pre WW2 a lot larger than it is now. And I know they didn't take land from the west, north and south thus from the east, yes Poland.

3th of all here is a pic of it. http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bestand...9_physical.jpg

IF the Kaleun came from East Prussia then it is very feasable he took his idea for the emblem from that.

Lastly the germans didn't care what the polish ppl thought, they where untermenchen, and as such not human. And most important not worth listening to.

P.s. I'm trying to state facts and assumptions based on those facts. I do not agree with them!

[othr]

It did turn into a political discussion didn't it. That was not my intention, however, Poznan's coat of arms would not make it on a german boat, the same as the swastika would not make it on a British or whatever allied boat.

You simply do not put a national symbol of your bitter enemy on an instrument of war no matter what you think of that enemy. Just doesn't make sense.

If you can show me a picture of a German u-boat conning tower with this emblem I'll eat my words

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by othr

It did turn into a political discussion didn't it. That was not my intention, however, Poznan's coat of arms would not make it on a german boat, the same as the swastika would not make it on a British or whatever allied boat.

You simply do not put a national symbol of your bitter enemy on an instrument of war no matter what you think of that enemy. Just doesn't make sense.

If you can show me a picture of a German u-boat conning tower with this emblem I'll eat my words

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=91

http://www.sharkhunters.com/historya.htm

[jimbob]

Irony, karma or whatchacallit:

The first Skipper of U-181 was Wolfgang Lüth, the second most successful submarine Skipper of WW II. Lüth earned the KNIGHTS CROSS with OAK LEAF, CROSSED SWORDS and DIAMONDS. He had commanded several U-boats previously, including U-13, U-9, U-138 and U-43 before taking command of U-181 on 9 May 1942. He became the right-hand man to GrossAdmiral Dönitz after the alleged suicide of Adolf Hitler when Dönitz was Chancellor of Germany. Because of his position, Dönitz was allowed to maintain armed security around himself well after Germany had surrendered. Lüth was in overall command of the security forces and it was his own order that a sentry should ask for the password only once – and if the correct password was not replied, the sentry should shoot to kill. Lüth was walking through the grounds of the Germany Naval Academy at Flensburg/Mürwick one night, his mind on other things, and he did not hear the sentry challenge him for the password. As Lüth himself had ordered, the sentry fired one shot, killing Lüth instantly. There was a quick Court of Inquiry and the young sentry, who was under command of our good friend GERD THÄTER (194-1987), was found totally innocent of any wrongdoing.

[othr]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=91

http://www.sharkhunters.com/historya.htm

Excuse me while I consume my words, back later!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by othr

Excuse me while I consume my words, back later!

Been there, done that! More times, in fact, than I care to remember.

What makes for class isn't in the being right, it's in the being wrong. My friend, you exemplify class on the forum!

[looney]

How many of each "class" (rank) of men can I have on each sub?

[col_Kurtz]

Originally Posted by lurker_hlb3

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...0&postcount=91

http://www.sharkhunters.com/historya.htm

Lurker, thank you for those links.
It`s... a bit shock and something new for me, but it`s a history.
I hope, you can forgive me my earlier question.

[col_Kurtz]

I think something is wrong... The geographical directions are changed 180 degrees is up and the South too, the West is... on the East, and East... on the West. As on the picture below.



OpsMonsun_705
OM_705_to_720
OMEGU_v300
OMEGU_v300_Patch2
OM_Harder_Escort_L1

[lurker_hlb3]

Originally Posted by col_Kurtz

I think something is wrong... The geographical directions are changed 180 degrees is up and the South too, the West is... on the East, and East... on the West. As on the picture below.



OpsMonsun_705
OM_705_to_720
OMEGU_v300
OMEGU_v300_Patch2
OM_Harder_Escort_L1

http://dod.xrea.jp/_silent/sh.htm


from the Nav Tools Readme

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Why the markings on cursors of ruler/compass are inverted:
To tell you angles of the line which you are drawing (north = 0). Click your ship, extend a line, then read the markings. If you get confused about this, use the normal one in "Option-Ruler".

[MTotenkopf]

why there is no albreich upgrade?

[looney]

Alberich is only very late war, plus most boats never got it.

That is the reason I should think

[Catfish]

Hello, sorry for OT,
from one of Lurker's links of U-181,
http://www.sharkhunters.com/historya.htm
never heard this before.

I mean i knew that US ships were supporting England and convoys by attacking U-boats before an official declaration of war, but in 1939 ?
The later U-181 crewmember on board the Liner SS Columbus:


"The outbreak of World War Two found us in Caribbean waters and after having landed our passengers in Havana Cuba, we were ordered by Berlin to make for Mexico where we hid behind the reefs of Antonio Lizardo. Meanwhile we trained the crew for exercises in scuttling our vessel and in boats maneuvers.
The British were waiting but December 1939 we got orders from Berlin to try to run the blockade for Norway and Germany.
We got as far as about 200 miles off Baltimore with escorts by US destroyers and the heavy cruiser TUSCALOOSA, which continued to send our position to the British.
When the Canadian destroyer HYPERION stopped us with gunfire and when we successfully set our big liner afire and opened the sea valves, the TUSCALOOSAbrought us to Ellis Island from where we were shipped by train to San Francisco, early 1940. "


US "neutrality" in 1939 ?

Greetings,
Catfish