Julian Assange leaving?

Von Tonner · 08-18-14, 04:33 AM

Yeeees!!!! Now this pompous self righteous individual will get his comeuppance. Wonder who will get the first bite at him. USA or Sweden?

Jimbuna · 08-18-14, 05:15 AM

A link?

Quote:

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange says he will leave London's Ecuadorean embassy "soon" after two years' refuge.

He did not clarify when he would depart but said it was "probably not" for the reasons reported by the UK press.

Stories had suggested he was suffering ill-health and required treatment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28834849

I should imagine Ecuador will be a bit relieved.

Von Tonner · 08-18-14, 09:05 AM

WikiLeaks spokesperson has told the media:

""What Julian meant is that his plan is to leave as soon as the British government honours its commitment,"

Does anyone know what commitment by the British government he is referring to? I do not recall the government ever making a deal with this low-life.

As it is it has cost the British tax payer over 6 million pounds to make sure he does not slip out the back door.

The WikiLeaks founder spoke of his anger at being stuck in the embassy in an interview with this week's Mail on Sunday, describing how he could not even "keep a pot plant alive for long in here".

"My stubbornness is my best and my worst quality. I won't give up," he told the newspaper.

As we say in South Africa, "ag sies tog"

Oberon · 08-18-14, 09:25 AM

The USA will get him, via Sweden, still that's what you get for making Uncle Sam look bad.

Catfish · 08-18-14, 09:31 AM

Plain truth is always unwanted.
I just wonder why there is no one who speaks For Assange ?

Oberon · 08-18-14, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Plain truth is always unwanted.
I just wonder why there is no one who speaks For Assange ?

It's hard to get people to willingly become targets...

Feuer Frei! · 08-18-14, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Plain truth is always unwanted.
I just wonder why there is no one who speaks For Assange ?

Snowden.

There is. Trouble is, the sheep are the majority.
And corruption runs deep. Very deep.

Transparency.

The sheep just mill around waiting to feed on the crap the governments of this world dish out.

We need more who blow whistles.

Expose expose expose.

Catfish · 08-18-14, 09:48 AM

@Oberon: So are we that far, yet ?
Police state, surveillance, threatening people speaking their minds ..
Where is your so-called freedom gone ?

You know i'm really interested:
Clandestine organisations, killing, abducting, torturing, eavesdropping, breaking the law of their own government.
Someone finds that out, and the people want HIM killed ? Interesting behaviour, and perception.

Dread Knot · 08-18-14, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Von Tonner

WikiLeaks spokesperson has told the media:

""What Julian meant is that his plan is to leave as soon as the British government honours its commitment,"

Does anyone know what commitment by the British government he is referring to? I do not recall the government ever making a deal with this low-life.

As it is it has cost the British tax payer over 6 million pounds to make sure he does not slip out the back door.

There do seem to be a lot of mixed signals in that press conference. So his leaving relies on the Police letting him go?

The statement says

Quote:

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"The plan is for him to leave as soon as the UK government decides to honour its obligations in relation to international agreements and calls off the siege outside - it's as simple as that."

He claims that he'll leave the embassy when the UK police just let him go - but that isn't gong to happen any time soon.

The Ecuadorian Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino on the other hand seems to feel Mr. Assange will be remaining in the embassy for a long time to come.

Cry for attention perhaps?

Oberon · 08-18-14, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

@Oberon: So are we that far, yet ?
Police state, surveillance, threatening people speaking their minds ..
Where is your so-called freedom gone ?

You know i'm really interested:
Clandestine organisations, killing, abducting, torturing, eavesdropping, breaking the law of their own government.
Someone finds that out, and the people want HIM killed ? Interesting behaviour, and perception.

Freedom has always been a matter of perception. Absolute freedom has not existed since mankind first created a code of laws.

Catfish · 08-18-14, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Freedom has always been a matter of perception. Absolute freedom has not existed since mankind first created a code of laws.

I am not talking about an abstract 'freedom'.
I am talking about common laws that have been created for all, which are disregarded by organisations which claim to support a state that has issued those very laws.
And the laws are being broken by everyone's judgment and perception openly, publicly.

So nothing to see here, move on eh?

STEED · 08-18-14, 12:47 PM

Make sure he pays the police bill.

Von Tonner · 08-18-14, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feuer Frei!

Snowden.

There is. Trouble is, the sheep are the majority.
And corruption runs deep. Very deep.

Transparency.

The sheep just mill around waiting to feed on the crap the governments of this world dish out.

We need more who blow whistles.

Expose expose expose.

Feuer Frei I could not agree with you anymore than I do. Elected governments MUST be held accountable.... my only criteria is ... do NOT hold them to account by exposing men and women in serving that government and country (who may not even support the government you wish to bring account) harm.

In my books...you would be put up against a wall and shot. In a democracy there are a number of channels of dissent available to you. Your dissent should and must not put other peoples lives at risk...particularly when those lives are securing your liberty.

vanjast · 08-18-14, 02:02 PM

Why is it that all the leaks are about the USA (Assange, Snowden), why not other countries. The US 'security' establishment must be doing something wrong, or overstepping the mark.

We're talking about the 'west' only here, where we're supposed to be 'free'.

We all know how patriotism, propaganda can be twisted by the 'shepherds'.
Step back and think a bit why this has happened.

08-18-14, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Tonner

Feuer Frei I could not agree with you anymore than I do. Elected governments MUST be held accountable.... my only criteria is ... do NOT hold them to account by exposing men and women in serving that government and country (who may not even support the government you wish to bring account) harm.

In my books...you would be put up against a wall and shot. In a democracy there are a number of channels of dissent available to you. Your dissent should and must not put other peoples lives at risk...particularly when those lives are securing your liberty.

That is interesting.
I thought people had dropped that particular line of arguement when the governments abandoned it as being obviously rubbish.
It is nice to see some people still hold to it.

08-18-14, 04:33 AM	#1
Von Tonner Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 711 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Julian Assange leaving? Yeeees!!!! Now this pompous self righteous individual will get his comeuppance. Wonder who will get the first bite at him. USA or Sweden?

08-18-14, 09:48 AM	#8
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	@Oberon: So are we that far, yet ? Police state, surveillance, threatening people speaking their minds .. Where is your so-called freedom gone ? You know i'm really interested: Clandestine organisations, killing, abducting, torturing, eavesdropping, breaking the law of their own government. Someone finds that out, and the people want HIM killed ? Interesting behaviour, and perception. Last edited by Catfish; 08-18-14 at 10:54 AM.

08-18-14, 12:47 PM	#12
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Make sure he pays the police bill. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-18-14, 09:05 AM	#3
Von Tonner Seasoned Skipper Join Date: May 2005 Location: South Africa Posts: 711 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	WikiLeaks spokesperson has told the media: ""What Julian meant is that his plan is to leave as soon as the British government honours its commitment," Does anyone know what commitment by the British government he is referring to? I do not recall the government ever making a deal with this low-life. As it is it has cost the British tax payer over 6 million pounds to make sure he does not slip out the back door. The WikiLeaks founder spoke of his anger at being stuck in the embassy in an interview with this week's Mail on Sunday, describing how he could not even "keep a pot plant alive for long in here". "My stubbornness is my best and my worst quality. I won't give up," he told the newspaper. As we say in South Africa, "ag sies tog"

08-18-14, 09:25 AM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The USA will get him, via Sweden, still that's what you get for making Uncle Sam look bad.

08-18-14, 09:31 AM	#5
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Plain truth is always unwanted. I just wonder why there is no one who speaks For Assange ?

08-18-14, 02:02 PM	#14
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 783 Uploads: 4	Why is it that all the leaks are about the USA (Assange, Snowden), why not other countries. The US 'security' establishment must be doing something wrong, or overstepping the mark. We're talking about the 'west' only here, where we're supposed to be 'free'. We all know how patriotism, propaganda can be twisted by the 'shepherds'. Step back and think a bit why this has happened.