War Ace Campaign 4.1 - Page 40

robbythesub · 06-07-09, 11:06 AM

OK thanks, and I hope that this can be resolved as this makes it such a great game.

Regards

geosub1978 · 06-07-09, 02:14 PM

Hi!

In my XP-SP3 the mod works well, with no CTD so far and no lagging.
However I tried to enable MFM beta 4.1 (only the British ships (...B), removing M11B, M35B, M36B, NLL, NRC which interfere) and it seems that more memory is needed. (2GB DDR3-1333).

Has anyone else try to enable it with WAC 4?
Another question: Is it possible for XP-SP3 to handle 4GB DDR3-1333?

A6Intruder · 06-08-09, 01:19 AM

[quote=geosub1978;1113863]Hi!

In my XP-SP3 the mod works well, with no CTD so far and no lagging.

Did you upgrade your sub to VIIc untill now?

Kind regards

geosub1978 · 06-08-09, 02:53 AM

No, VIIB and IXB
Why?

A6Intruder · 06-08-09, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geosub1978

No, VIIB and IXB
Why?

Try it,you will see.

Kind regards

NGT · 06-08-09, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geosub1978

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Another question: Is it possible for XP-SP3 to handle 4GB DDR3-1333?

Hi,

you can put inside as much RAM you want, without problem, but XP 32 bit can "see" only 3,5 GB. If you have 64 bit XP, this one can "see" much more your mother-board can handle. . . I suppose you mother-board specifications accept the DDR3-1333. . . (just look at the box, or the site of manufacturer)

ddrgn · 06-12-09, 10:12 AM

runs fine on windows seven

Krabb · 06-24-09, 09:28 AM

Finally, I found solution for Vista\Win7!

1. Download 4gb_patch.zip here: http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php.
2. Unpack it and run the exe.
3. Browse to your Silent Hunter folder and select sh3.exe. This app will create a backup of it and will patch the executable.
4. Click OK to close.

Extra steps for Vista\Win7 32 (not needed for 64-bit versions):
5. Open an Elevated Command Prompt with Administrator Privileges (see below, if you don't know how).
6. Type "bcdedit /set increaseuserva 2900" (no quotes). You can try values in range 2900-3030.
7. Reboot.

How to Open Elevated Command Prompt with Administrator Privileges in Windows Vista\Win7:
1. Click on Vista\Win7 Start button.
2. Locate the Command Prompt menu item (All Programs > Accessories, or appears in program access history).
3. Right-click on Command Prompt.
4. In the context menu, select "Run as Administrator".

urfisch · 06-25-09, 12:56 PM

thought this was a milestone...but:

i used your method and: finally the game loads! (before it crashed already loading the menu after starting the game) but, the missions itself do not load...ctd at 90% - single missions and career is the same result.

so, as to the fact the editor does not load the mission files at all, ctd... - maybe windows vista has some problems with the objects count? i mean, the reason i installed wac was the high amount of landobjects, which i missed in all other supermods. and as i looked into the mis files...i counted more than 4000 objects, as to 1000 in the stock version or gwx. the _LND.mis file of wac is 3 times larger. but even when i manually deleted half of the objects, i still cant load any mission or career without a ctd...this is really frustrating!

and ideas?

Krabb · 06-25-09, 06:30 PM

How much RAM do you have and what Vista version, 32 or 64?

It's unlikely that WAC will start if you have less than 2GB. Maybe even more is required... I have 4 gigs installed, the game runs fine (though tested only a few minutes, hasn't played a full patrol).

You are right, the cause of problems is the object count. This patch allows the game to use more memory for them. And if you haven't this "more memory", the patch does not give the desired effect.

Technical explanation of what the patch does
It simply sets the bit IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in an exe-file header. Thus Windows allocates a larger address space to application. Up to 3GB on 32-bit Windows and 4GB on 64-bit.

Here's a mirror of the patch, just in case: http://www.mediafire.com/?j331c5wn2mm

IFRT-WHUFC · 06-25-09, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krabb

How much RAM do you have and what Vista version, 32 or 64?

It's unlikely that WAC will start if you have less than 2GB. Maybe even more is required... I have 4 gigs installed, the game runs fine (though tested only a few minutes, hasn't played a full patrol).

You are right, the cause of problems is the object count. This patch allows the game to use more memory for them. And if you haven't this "more memory", the patch does not give the desired effect.

Technical explanation of what the patch does
It simply sets the bit IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in an exe-file header. Thus Windows allocates a larger address space to application. Up to 2GB on 32-bit Windows and 4GB on 64-bit.

Here's a mirror of the patch, just in case: http://www.mediafire.com/?j331c5wn2mm

I Have 3 Gig running Vista 32 and WAC 4 will not run on mine without removing a few ships! So you may be correct there! As soon as I added the MFM to GWX3 It would either run with dodgy graphics or not at all!!

TFYI
Rick.

Krabb · 06-26-09, 12:15 AM

Sorry for the misinformation, Windows allocates up to 3GB on 32-bit. Corrected previous post.

Please note: On Vista 32 it is required to set the option increaseuserva, as was mentioned earlier. Without it this patch will be useless.

urfisch · 06-26-09, 05:44 AM

hey krabb,

thx a lot for your detailed answer. i have vista 32, with 4gb of ram. and 4 gb are allocated.

i understand the problem, but i was not able to solve it completly. after a fresh reinstall of the game, version 3.1 of wac runs fine - even the mission editor opens the campaign files (also the 4.0 wac ones!) now. this is the successful part.

but the update 4.0 does not load. it crashes at 95% of the loading of a mission. i will give it a try and delete manually some hundret objects. maybe this is the clue.

does the update 4.0 run on your system? i wanted to use the campaignlayers with gwx 3.0, as the objectcount (boyes, ships, buildings, etc.) is far more larger, which suites perfect in the game.

Krabb · 06-26-09, 06:54 AM

Yes, 4.0 update runs fine on my system, with all objects (the Levensauer bridge, buoys, shipwrecks). But I have Vista 64... It seems that even 3GB of memory isn't enough... Have you tried to increase increaseuserva option up to 3030? And forgot to mention that after setting this option a reboot is required.

urfisch · 06-26-09, 09:11 AM

this is really strange. i tested a few things, but nothings brings 4.0 to work...although i have 4gb of ram and used your method up to 3000. and i also tested to delete units in the mis files - nothing! maybe its something different, as the single missions also do not work in 4.0, there are not as many objects or scripts loaded - and i tested a few, with different boats. only the training missions work.

06-07-09, 02:14 PM	#587
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	Hi! In my XP-SP3 the mod works well, with no CTD so far and no lagging. However I tried to enable MFM beta 4.1 (only the British ships (...B), removing M11B, M35B, M36B, NLL, NRC which interfere) and it seems that more memory is needed. (2GB DDR3-1333). Has anyone else try to enable it with WAC 4? Another question: Is it possible for XP-SP3 to handle 4GB DDR3-1333? __________________

06-08-09, 01:19 AM	#588
A6Intruder Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 663 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	[quote=geosub1978;1113863]Hi! In my XP-SP3 the mod works well, with no CTD so far and no lagging. Did you upgrade your sub to VIIc untill now? Kind regards __________________ http://www.mediafire.com/UffzRohledder

06-08-09, 02:53 AM	#589
geosub1978 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Salamis Base Posts: 567 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	No, VIIB and IXB Why? __________________

06-12-09, 10:12 AM	#592
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	runs fine on windows seven __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

06-24-09, 09:28 AM	#593
Krabb Navy Dude Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 172 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Finally, I found solution for Vista\Win7! 1. Download 4gb_patch.zip here: http://ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php. 2. Unpack it and run the exe. 3. Browse to your Silent Hunter folder and select sh3.exe. This app will create a backup of it and will patch the executable. 4. Click OK to close. Extra steps for Vista\Win7 32 (not needed for 64-bit versions): 5. Open an Elevated Command Prompt with Administrator Privileges (see below, if you don't know how). 6. Type "bcdedit /set increaseuserva 2900" (no quotes). You can try values in range 2900-3030. 7. Reboot. How to Open Elevated Command Prompt with Administrator Privileges in Windows Vista\Win7: 1. Click on Vista\Win7 Start button. 2. Locate the Command Prompt menu item (All Programs > Accessories, or appears in program access history). 3. Right-click on Command Prompt. 4. In the context menu, select "Run as Administrator". Last edited by Krabb; 01-17-10 at 02:20 PM. Reason: Added info about Win7

06-07-09, 11:06 AM	#586
robbythesub Captain Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Somewhere under the ocean Posts: 504 Downloads: 302 Uploads: 0	OK thanks, and I hope that this can be resolved as this makes it such a great game. Regards

06-25-09, 12:56 PM	#594
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	thought this was a milestone...but: i used your method and: finally the game loads! (before it crashed already loading the menu after starting the game) but, the missions itself do not load...ctd at 90% - single missions and career is the same result. so, as to the fact the editor does not load the mission files at all, ctd... - maybe windows vista has some problems with the objects count? i mean, the reason i installed wac was the high amount of landobjects, which i missed in all other supermods. and as i looked into the mis files...i counted more than 4000 objects, as to 1000 in the stock version or gwx. the _LND.mis file of wac is 3 times larger. but even when i manually deleted half of the objects, i still cant load any mission or career without a ctd...this is really frustrating! and ideas? __________________

06-25-09, 06:30 PM	#595
Krabb Navy Dude Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 172 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	How much RAM do you have and what Vista version, 32 or 64? It's unlikely that WAC will start if you have less than 2GB. Maybe even more is required... I have 4 gigs installed, the game runs fine (though tested only a few minutes, hasn't played a full patrol). You are right, the cause of problems is the object count. This patch allows the game to use more memory for them. And if you haven't this "more memory", the patch does not give the desired effect. Technical explanation of what the patch does It simply sets the bit IMAGE_FILE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE in an exe-file header. Thus Windows allocates a larger address space to application. Up to 3GB on 32-bit Windows and 4GB on 64-bit. Here's a mirror of the patch, just in case: http://www.mediafire.com/?j331c5wn2mm Last edited by Krabb; 06-26-09 at 12:19 AM. Reason: Corrected tech info

06-26-09, 12:15 AM	#597
Krabb Navy Dude Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 172 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Sorry for the misinformation, Windows allocates up to 3GB on 32-bit. Corrected previous post. Please note: On Vista 32 it is required to set the option increaseuserva, as was mentioned earlier. Without it this patch will be useless.

06-26-09, 05:44 AM	#598
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	hey krabb, thx a lot for your detailed answer. i have vista 32, with 4gb of ram. and 4 gb are allocated. i understand the problem, but i was not able to solve it completly. after a fresh reinstall of the game, version 3.1 of wac runs fine - even the mission editor opens the campaign files (also the 4.0 wac ones!) now. this is the successful part. but the update 4.0 does not load. it crashes at 95% of the loading of a mission. i will give it a try and delete manually some hundret objects. maybe this is the clue. does the update 4.0 run on your system? i wanted to use the campaignlayers with gwx 3.0, as the objectcount (boyes, ships, buildings, etc.) is far more larger, which suites perfect in the game. __________________

06-26-09, 06:54 AM	#599
Krabb Navy Dude Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 172 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Yes, 4.0 update runs fine on my system, with all objects (the Levensauer bridge, buoys, shipwrecks). But I have Vista 64... It seems that even 3GB of memory isn't enough... Have you tried to increase increaseuserva option up to 3030? And forgot to mention that after setting this option a reboot is required.

06-26-09, 09:11 AM	#600
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	this is really strange. i tested a few things, but nothings brings 4.0 to work...although i have 4gb of ram and used your method up to 3000. and i also tested to delete units in the mis files - nothing! maybe its something different, as the single missions also do not work in 4.0, there are not as many objects or scripts loaded - and i tested a few, with different boats. only the training missions work. __________________