Polish Taskforce

[plj]

Ok, sinking slow moving merchants is quite easy, you have all the time in the world to make your calculations, line up for a good shot, and sink them. Margin of error is high, as you have slow moving shiplength of margin.

If my calculations are off a little with those 25/35kts moving ships, all that happens is some watchguy spotting bubbles, spotlights flip on, and there I am crashdiving and performing evacive maneuvres untill I can repeat this fun exersize.

There is no use in plotting their course using bearing and range, as by the time I have a course, they change it. If I dont get them on first contact, all hell will break loose as some planes and our own taskforce will engage them as well ... when that happens I can kiss any plotting goodbye, and with my luck they change speed/course every time I enter som half baked solution into the TDC and pray to his holyness TFSM to guide my eel to her target.

So barring letting them go for the fast moving merchant a little further down, how does one handle them correct with their hulls where gravity wants them to be ?

[plj]

noone ??

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Originally Posted by plj

So barring letting them go for the fast moving merchant a little further down, how does one handle them correct with their hulls where gravity wants them to be ?

Get as close as possible to them, in a position and heading as favourable as possible for a nearly 90 deg solution. If your targets are zigzagging, they have two possible AoB's relative to you. Cross the fingers and hope that when they cross your aim they have the correct AoB. If not, let Luftwaffe and the rest of Kriegsmarine to do the job thy are paid for

[SnipersHunter]

Anf if you close enought you should shoot a salve

[plj]

Originally Posted by gap

Get as close as possible to them, in a position and heading as favourable as possible for a nearly 90 deg solution. If your targets are zigzagging, they have two possible AoB's relative to you. Cross the fingers and hope that when they cross your aim they have the correct AoB. If not, let Luftwaffe and the rest of Kriegsmarine to do the job thy are paid for

They suck at it ... Luftwaffe did not take into account that TDW would create IRAI, neither did ze Kriegsmarine. They suffer heavy casualties, while I theoretically should be able to prevent that.

Originally Posted by SnipersHunter

Anf if you close enought you should shoot a salve

I'm trying to prevent wasting my torpedo's .. there arent enoug as it is :/

[SnipersHunter]

Thin he means the first mission not the tutorial

[plj]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Are you referring to the tutorial mission?

No, Coastal Waters .. the very first campaign which you only get to play if you skip the tutorial iirc.

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Originally Posted by plj

They suck at it ... Luftwaffe did not take into account that TDW would create IRAI, neither did ze Kriegsmarine. They suffer heavy casualties, while I theoretically should be able to prevent that.:/

plj, the answer to any of your questions is inside you... and it is obviously wrong

[Trevally.]

Looking for the Orzel

Poles were British ship
10.18.2013, h. 8:03
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They were looking for "Orzel" discovered the secret of another war. The wreck, which Polish sailors of ORP "Lech" examined during the summer in the North Sea , the British submarine J6 of the First World War. The British have not yet know where it is.


Accept summer materials Naval Hydrographic Office sent the British. Yesterday the head of the British arrived in Gdynia hydrography adm. Tom Karsten. He confirmed that the wreck, which investigated the Poles, the J6. Submarine J have been produced since 1914. In total, for service in the Royal Navy entered seven. J6 was launched two years after the start of the First World War. In October 1918, he was mistakenly shot by the British ship HMS "Cymric". - J6 went down, and the British long they did not know where exactly lies the wreck - says Cdr. Czeslaw quiet from the press office of the Navy. Inadvertently helped unravel the mystery of the Poles. - During a visit to Gdynia head of the UK Hydrographic Office, thanked the material submitted, expressed regret that the obligation on the North Sea wreck is not "Orzel" and at the same time declared that the British will continue to support its exploration - notes LCDR. Quiet. "Orzel" entered service in 1939. He was most Polish submarine. At the beginning of the war he was interned in the Estonian Tallinn, from where he escaped under cover of night. The crew, free maps and weapons, was able to break into the UK. Then she fought for years against the Germans. In 1940, he disappeared while on patrol in the North Sea. I still do not know in what circumstances. One hypothesis that has been accidentally sunk by a friendly unit, another that contributed to set the British minefield. Navy for years making a search of the ship. At the beginning of 2012, specialists from the Hydrographic Office MW came upon a trail. Checking supplemented by the British database, discovered the indescribable wreck. Lay 70 feet below the surface, on the waters, through which passed in 1940, "Orzel." This spring, the trail crew confirmed destroyer ORP "Chaika" , returning that way from the port of Belfast. In June of this year, the North Sea Gdynia, she went ORP "Lech", which was carried out on-site survey. Under water, divers went down several times. It was obvious that the lustration wreck is not "Orzel". - There were nearly identical elements, even stern hatch and rudder depth. Disagreed, however, the construction and arrangement of valves, missing or marks Bofors cannon, which had "Orzel" - informed the then spokesman Navy Cmdr see Bartosz Zajda.

http://www.polska-zbrojna.pl/home/ar...rytyjski-okret

[Trevally.]

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Mystery "Orzel" unexplained
08.06.2013, h. 16:28
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Expedition ORP "Lech" completed its work in the North Sea. However, a preliminary analysis of the wreckage, which is in arrears in the bottom of the coast of the United Kingdom indicates that this is not "Orzel". Navy ensures that it will continue to look for his ship lost in 1940.

ORP "Lech"
ORP "Lech" is on its way to home port in Gdynia. LCDR. Peter Adamczak deputy spokesman of the Navy in an interview with Polish portal-zbrojna.pl says that only after the return of the ship will be able to tell you more about the wreck, which is supposed to Polish and British hydrografowie could be legendary submarine "Orzel". - Unfortunately, if you know only that the test by our experts entity is not our missing during World War II ship - he noted with regret Cdr. Adamczak. He admitted, however, that the parameters of the wreck was similar to that sought. - Soon, our experts will present research results at the bottom of the North Sea - he stressed. Photo sonar submarine wreck. Fig. The United Kingdom Hydrographic Office "Orzel" was built in the Dutch shipyard De Schelde. Half of the funds for this purpose came from social contributions. We managed to collect more than the eight million dollars. The ship entered service in early 1939. - The class ranked among the most units in the world - says Cdr see Slawomir res Kudela, a historian of the Navy. She could take on board 20 torpedoes, proceed without calling at the port of seven thousand miles and descend to a depth of a hundred meters. - It was a unit of ocean. Some called it the submarine cruiser - says Kudela.




In September 1939, "Orzel" took part in the operation, codenamed "bag". He had to face the German warships in the Gulf of Gdansk. Fleet Command also planned to use him in action against the battleship "Schleswig-Holstein". This, however, ultimately did not come from the channel port of Gdansk. After a few days "Orzel" left his position and moved to the open sea. Fleet assumed command of the Polish submarines in extreme cases can take refuge in the ports of Finland and Sweden. The commander of the "Eagle" Cdr. Henry Kloczkowski but decided to sail to Estonia. There, she was interned, Kloczkowski and was taken to hospital. There are signs that simulate disease to avoid an embarrassing situation. For such a proposal three years later came Polish Maritime Court in London, which Kłoczkowskiego sentenced for desertion and demoted to the rank of seaman. But what really happened, no one knows. Meanwhile, "Orzel" under the new command of Captain. March. (Later Cdr. Sec.) John Grudzinski at the end of September 1939, he made ​​a daring escape from the port of Tallinn. Estonian sailors overpowered the guards, caused a power failure on the waterfront and in the night went on the waters of the Gulf of Finland. They waited there daily, putting the ship on the bottom, and then headed towards the UK. - This was an almost reckless - says Kudela. Previously, she was almost completely devoid of weaponry, Estonians crew also received the map. - Go through the Baltic Sea by the navigator was able to see in March. Marian Mokrskiemu who used the old German list of lighthouses - says Kudela. After 44 days of the cruise ship arrived in Scotland. Soon, along with several other Polish units started to serve alongside the British. "Orzel" took part in patrols in the North Sea, escorting a convoy going to Bergen, sank a German freighter "Rio de Janeiro", which was transporting equipment and troops preparing for the invasion in Norway. May 23 "Orzel" came out in his last voyage. After leaving the port trace of him. - Most likely, in my opinion, the hypothesis says that he entered into a minefield, which the British did not have time to tell him - says Kudela. But there are other theories. According to them, she was to be mistakenly sunk by allied unit of the Dutch, the British bomber or during ascent was bombed by German aircraft.

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Looking for the Orzel

Thank you for sharing Trev.

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

ya' mean trust the force?yoda-gap

You said that

I start thinking that I should change my forum name to something along the lines of yoda-gap.

May the Force be with you, brother Aktungbby