[REL] Real Environment mod - Page 17

Chubster · 04-25-10, 09:01 AM

Hi guys...is this hosted anywhere else? I have tried twice now to download and not only does it take an age 20 minutes on a fast broadband connection when I did eventually get it winrar said it was corrupt?

Chubster · 04-25-10, 09:47 AM

Ok, just got this downloaded

(how many cups of tea later) and it has extracted this time.

Off for some luvliness

Dignan · 09-02-10, 09:37 PM

Does Real Environment include the explosion special effects and debris effects that were in PE4?

fastfed · 09-30-10, 12:43 AM

Wait does this work with TMO and RSRD ?? Its the only mods I have installed.. And I WOULD LOVE THE HELL OUT OF THIS MOD!! It adds so much to the immersion.. THANKS

TopcatWA · 09-30-10, 05:12 AM

I will give this mod a try & see how my graphics speed goes.
Thanks for the upload.

Dignan · 10-12-10, 05:55 PM

Been running this mod over TMO and RSDRC and am loving it.

I have one question about night storms though. Last time I was on the bridge in a heavy storm at night, I noticed that the cloud layer was slightly transparent. I could see some stars behind the cloud and it was 15kt wind, heavy rain and heavy fog. SHouldn't I not be able to see much beyond my own sub? Is this a RE mod thing or a vanilla weather thing?

It's not noticeable during daytime storms, just nighttime.

Armistead · 10-12-10, 11:54 PM

I wouldn't run it over TMORSRD. It doe's effect sensors, visuals, ect. TMO ha env 5 with additional parts of real env and PE4. To what degree it effect it I couldn't say, but TMO is tweaked to work with Env 5. It's the changes you're not aware of that could result in the enemy responding different than what he would.

Still, not the end of the world, won't crash your game and I ran it over TMO for a long time, I just don't trust it with all the changes now with TMO2.

Galanti · 10-13-10, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armistead

I wouldn't run it over TMORSRD. It doe's effect sensors, visuals, ect. TMO ha env 5 with additional parts of real env and PE4. To what degree it effect it I couldn't say, but TMO is tweaked to work with Env 5. It's the changes you're not aware of that could result in the enemy responding different than what he would.

Still, not the end of the world, won't crash your game and I ran it over TMO for a long time, I just don't trust it with all the changes now with TMO2.

Absoutely perfect advice. The visibility ranges in basic Real Env are a little goofy, so the supermods (TMO2 and RFB) have incorporated balancing tweaks so that you're not being picked up at 9000 yards in dense fog.

Dignan · 10-13-10, 04:01 PM

Ok. Thanks for the advice. I'll get rid of RE for now. Just FYI, I'm running the last TMO compatible with 1.4. I don't have uboat addon. On that note, does the uboat addon/gold edition fix a lot of the missing speech files?

Still wondering about my original question, RE or not....is it normal to see stars through the clouds at night during a heavy storm?

Armistead · 10-13-10, 10:58 PM

I don't recall seeing stars in heavy storms. Maybe a few, but usually on the horizon. The stars do rotate correctly and fade on the horizon on one end, come up on the other. I think sometimes when they near the horizon a few show. Also, a lot depends on what video settings you have. If you enable enviromental effects, light filters, fog, you'll see a lot less to nothing.

I did run RE with TMO 1.4. I didn't see that it effected sensors much, but I don't trust it with TMO2, so you're probably fine. Again, shouldn't hurt anything but possible sensors and visuals, could by better or worse, but no one has compared the values. That's why most scorn on using other env mods not included with the supermod, as the env mod for the supermod is tweaked to work with it in a realistic fashion.

As for speech files, I don't know which ones are missing that gold would correct. There are several sound mods that fix some speech issues. You may enjoy Pouls sound mod with EAX, adds lot's of sounds and changes the depth and tone of the sound.

TorpX · 12-06-10, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dignan

Ok. Thanks for the advice. I'll get rid of RE for now. Just FYI, I'm running the last TMO compatible with 1.4. I don't have uboat addon. On that note, does the uboat addon/gold edition fix a lot of the missing speech files?

Still wondering about my original question, RE or not....is it normal to see stars through the clouds at night during a heavy storm?

I have the same thing.
Using SH 4 v1.5
RFB latest ver
other stuff

When I first noticed them, I thought they were lighthouses or something (I was in heavy rain and overcast).

Its very odd.

TorpX

Dignan · 12-06-10, 08:54 PM

I think it is a stock problem. Tried with environment mods and without. The problem is that cloud graphics are not thick enough at night to cover up the stars. Kind of an immersion breaker but I can live with it. Stormy weather looks great in the day but not at night.

TorpX · 12-08-10, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dignan

I think it is a stock problem. Tried with environment mods and without. The problem is that cloud graphics are not thick enough at night to cover up the stars. Kind of an immersion breaker but I can live with it. Stormy weather looks great in the day but not at night.

The 'stars' in the overcast don't bother me that much either. However, It seems that I'm in rough seas most of the time, day after day with 15m/s winds and waves crashing over the bridge. Is this realistic? Mind you, it doesn't slow us down much.

I'm guessing these environmental factors don't affect torpedo performance?

Dignan · 12-09-10, 07:39 AM

Are you running any mods? Some mods will tweak how often weather conditions will change. I'm running TMO2.0. I think the rate of weather change is very good in TMO and sporadic so it isn't predictable.

Sea conditions do in fact have an effect on torpedo performance. I would advise against using the "contact influence" setting in rough seas. You will get a lot of premature detonations. And I think it 's harder for the AI to spot torpedo wakes in rough seas. Shouldn't effect speed from what I can tell.

TorpX · 12-10-10, 11:04 PM

I'm running RFB 2.0 and RSRDC along with some minor mods. The weather will change rapidly at times, it just seems biased in favor of 15 m/s winds and rough seas. In SHCE a S-boat could barely crawl in heavy seas, but in this game it seems like it's mostly for visual effect. I've only played S-boats so far, maybe its different for the fleet boats. It doesn't seem to be well modeled though.

09-30-10, 05:12 AM	#245
TopcatWA Navy Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Downunder W.A. Sth.of the River Posts: 174 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I will give this mod a try & see how my graphics speed goes. Thanks for the upload. __________________ Run Silent Run Deep!!!! 01.NSM4 Classic/.RFB v.1.52.1024+Patches 02.RFB Radar HotFix/RSRDC_RFBv15_V420+Patch2 03.Sobers_Better_Rocks & Sand 04.Small_Nav_Tools_w_Chrono 05.Brit_MkVIII_US_Mk28_Torps 06.ROW Sound effects.v.9/Enviromental 5.0 O/S Win10 Pro 64-Bit/Intel 64xQuad Core CPU i7-4790+3.60 Ghz 32gig RAM nVidia GeForce GTX-1650 Ti

10-13-10, 10:58 PM	#250
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I don't recall seeing stars in heavy storms. Maybe a few, but usually on the horizon. The stars do rotate correctly and fade on the horizon on one end, come up on the other. I think sometimes when they near the horizon a few show. Also, a lot depends on what video settings you have. If you enable enviromental effects, light filters, fog, you'll see a lot less to nothing. I did run RE with TMO 1.4. I didn't see that it effected sensors much, but I don't trust it with TMO2, so you're probably fine. Again, shouldn't hurt anything but possible sensors and visuals, could by better or worse, but no one has compared the values. That's why most scorn on using other env mods not included with the supermod, as the env mod for the supermod is tweaked to work with it in a realistic fashion. As for speech files, I don't know which ones are missing that gold would correct. There are several sound mods that fix some speech issues. You may enjoy Pouls sound mod with EAX, adds lot's of sounds and changes the depth and tone of the sound. Last edited by Armistead; 10-13-10 at 11:54 PM.

04-25-10, 09:01 AM	#241
Chubster Beach Leaf Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 287 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Hi guys...is this hosted anywhere else? I have tried twice now to download and not only does it take an age 20 minutes on a fast broadband connection when I did eventually get it winrar said it was corrupt?

04-25-10, 09:47 AM	#242
Chubster Beach Leaf Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 287 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	Ok, just got this downloaded (how many cups of tea later) and it has extracted this time. Off for some luvliness

09-02-10, 09:37 PM	#243
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	Does Real Environment include the explosion special effects and debris effects that were in PE4?

09-30-10, 12:43 AM	#244
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 779 Downloads: 246 Uploads: 0	Wait does this work with TMO and RSRD ?? Its the only mods I have installed.. And I WOULD LOVE THE HELL OUT OF THIS MOD!! It adds so much to the immersion.. THANKS

10-12-10, 05:55 PM	#246
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	Been running this mod over TMO and RSDRC and am loving it. I have one question about night storms though. Last time I was on the bridge in a heavy storm at night, I noticed that the cloud layer was slightly transparent. I could see some stars behind the cloud and it was 15kt wind, heavy rain and heavy fog. SHouldn't I not be able to see much beyond my own sub? Is this a RE mod thing or a vanilla weather thing? It's not noticeable during daytime storms, just nighttime.

10-12-10, 11:54 PM	#247
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't run it over TMORSRD. It doe's effect sensors, visuals, ect. TMO ha env 5 with additional parts of real env and PE4. To what degree it effect it I couldn't say, but TMO is tweaked to work with Env 5. It's the changes you're not aware of that could result in the enemy responding different than what he would. Still, not the end of the world, won't crash your game and I ran it over TMO for a long time, I just don't trust it with all the changes now with TMO2.

10-13-10, 04:01 PM	#249
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	Ok. Thanks for the advice. I'll get rid of RE for now. Just FYI, I'm running the last TMO compatible with 1.4. I don't have uboat addon. On that note, does the uboat addon/gold edition fix a lot of the missing speech files? Still wondering about my original question, RE or not....is it normal to see stars through the clouds at night during a heavy storm?

12-06-10, 08:54 PM	#252
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	I think it is a stock problem. Tried with environment mods and without. The problem is that cloud graphics are not thick enough at night to cover up the stars. Kind of an immersion breaker but I can live with it. Stormy weather looks great in the day but not at night.

12-09-10, 07:39 AM	#254
Dignan Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 698 Downloads: 262 Uploads: 0	Are you running any mods? Some mods will tweak how often weather conditions will change. I'm running TMO2.0. I think the rate of weather change is very good in TMO and sporadic so it isn't predictable. Sea conditions do in fact have an effect on torpedo performance. I would advise against using the "contact influence" setting in rough seas. You will get a lot of premature detonations. And I think it 's harder for the AI to spot torpedo wakes in rough seas. Shouldn't effect speed from what I can tell.

12-10-10, 11:04 PM	#255
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I'm running RFB 2.0 and RSRDC along with some minor mods. The weather will change rapidly at times, it just seems biased in favor of 15 m/s winds and rough seas. In SHCE a S-boat could barely crawl in heavy seas, but in this game it seems like it's mostly for visual effect. I've only played S-boats so far, maybe its different for the fleet boats. It doesn't seem to be well modeled though.