US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 10

Fubar2Niner · 01-06-17, 02:58 PM

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yubba · 01-06-17, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fubar2Niner

I think that possibly the only person that takes Trumps tweets at face value is Trump, and why not, the man after all is a dipstick !

Ahh hhmmm, are you worth billions,, is your other plane,, going to be Air Force One ?????

Fubar2Niner · 01-06-17, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba

Ahh hhmmm, are you worth billions,, is your other plane,, going to be Air Force One ?????

Billions, thanks to daddy. Trump has been bankcrupt more than once. Air Force One ? Is that a psuedonym for his haircut?

vienna · 01-06-17, 03:29 PM

Perhaps not, but I do know of a dipstick who is a billionaire and will have Air Force One; wealth and position do not void his dipstick status...

Oh, excuse me, I should be respectful... Dipstick-In-Chief...

<O>

Fubar2Niner · 01-06-17, 03:33 PM

All hail to Dipstick-In-Cheif Soon to be Dick-Wad

vienna · 01-06-17, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fubar2Niner

Billions, thanks to daddy. Trump has been bankcrupt more than once. Air Force One ? Is that a psuedonym for his haircut?

You know, maybe, if the wind is right, Trump could very possibly be able to use that haircut as it catches the wind, sort of like the Flying Nun; think of the savings for the taxpayer if Trump can travel without AF1...

<O>

ikalugin · 01-06-17, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

Just as an aside, do you have any knowledge of the Russian cyber efforts to spread disinformation and confusion by having Russians post spurious and inaccurate information to social media sites and forums on behalf of the Kremlin? Seems to have been going on for some time; here's a couple of cites:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/maxseddon/d...wZl#.tfElVK9Kv

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...an-troll-house

(cut the smiles from the quote)

It has been a part of western narrative for quite some time yes, but at the same time it is mostly projection - ie Western institutions attributing Western approaches and modes of operations to Russian actors. Sometimes it becomes rather amusing when:
- a Western source.
-- uses Russian material regarding.
--- perceived (by the Russian authors) Western operations.
-- as evidence regarding Russian operations.
- in order to promote simmilar operations (against Russian and other actors) in Western institutions.

Fubar2Niner · 01-06-17, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

You know, maybe, if the wind is right, Trump could very possibly be able to use that haircut as it catches the wind, sort of like the Flying Nun; think of the savings for the taxpayer if Trump can travel without AF1...

<O>

Think of the savings for everyone. after all Trump in a nuns outfit? Yeah I can see that, freakin perverted, but I can see it. Trump in a flying nuns outfit? I'd love to see that. He ain't no light weight, and we all know what goes up, must come down, and some with a bigger bump than others. Lets just hope he don't take us all with him.

ikalugin · 01-06-17, 04:08 PM

Meanwhile we can now get the full leaked audio. Did I get it right and did Kerry basically say that US allowed ISIS to flourish in order to harm Assad?

declaimer - the authenticity of the said audio and claims made in it is yet to be verified.

ikalugin · 01-06-17, 05:44 PM

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
report.

vienna · 01-06-17, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
report.

Thanks for posting; was looking forward to posting this myself, so you saved me the effort. I also wanted to post this, the "Joint Statement for the Record
to the Senate Armed Services Committee - Foreign Cyber Threats to the United States":

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/...16%20FINAL.pdf

This was the initial formal statement presented at the beginning of yesterday's Senate Hearings...

Thanks again...

<O>>

vienna · 01-06-17, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin

(cut the smiles from the quote)

It has been a part of western narrative for quite some time yes, but at the same time it is mostly projection - ie Western institutions attributing Western approaches and modes of operations to Russian actors. Sometimes it becomes rather amusing when:
- a Western source.
-- uses Russian material regarding.
--- perceived (by the Russian authors) Western operations.
-- as evidence regarding Russian operations.
- in order to promote simmilar operations (against Russian and other actors) in Western institutions.

So, what you're saying is only the West engages in such activities and the Kremlin is clean and pure in these matters?...

Say, how's that Kool-Aid tasting?...

<O>

eddie · 01-06-17, 07:32 PM

Well Trump says the Ame4rican Taxpayer will pay for the wall first, so he can get it up faster. He'll worry about it later on how he can get Mexico to reimburse the US. Now those who voted fro him, listen up! Star digging into your wallets, because you are paying your share too!

All this after he promised over an d over that Mexico would pay for the wall, and his goofy mouth piece Conway, she is running around say that he never said anything about that in the first place! Who do these clowns think they are talking too? Trump lovers!

When you see Trump walking around the capital or the White house, all you will hear, is "Flip-flop, Flip-flop,flip-flop!!"

ikalugin · 01-07-17, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

So, what you're saying is only the West engages in such activities and the Kremlin is clean and pure in these matters?...

Say, how's that Kool-Aid tasting?...

<O>

I didn't say that. What I said - is that West is projectiing, ie assuming that we operate in the same way West does. And in my opinion this projection rather than real actions by Russia based actors is the cause for the current hysteria (well that and political convenience of blaming Russia for stuff).

And it is not only about cyber - as I have already mentioned Western authors take papers writen by Russian authers about Western operations... as evidence regarding Russian operations and propose West to conduct those kinds of operations more intensively. That is where that whole "hybrid warfare" nonesense came from as well.

yubba · 01-07-17, 09:48 AM

The left has two options

1. take responsibility for running a poor campaign and change their corrupt behavior

2. Blame Russia,, risk WW3 and cover up their corrupt behavior.

I guess they are going with 2

01-06-17, 03:29 PM	#139
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,507 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Perhaps not, but I do know of a dipstick who is a billionaire and will have Air Force One; wealth and position do not void his dipstick status... Oh, excuse me, I should be respectful... Dipstick-In-Chief... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Meanwhile we can now get the full leaked audio. Did I get it right and did Kerry basically say that US allowed ISIS to flourish in order to harm Assad? declaimer - the authenticity of the said audio and claims made in it is yet to be verified. __________________ Grumpy as always.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf report. __________________ Grumpy as always.

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eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Well Trump says the Ame4rican Taxpayer will pay for the wall first, so he can get it up faster. He'll worry about it later on how he can get Mexico to reimburse the US. Now those who voted fro him, listen up! Star digging into your wallets, because you are paying your share too! All this after he promised over an d over that Mexico would pay for the wall, and his goofy mouth piece Conway, she is running around say that he never said anything about that in the first place! Who do these clowns think they are talking too? Trump lovers! When you see Trump walking around the capital or the White house, all you will hear, is "Flip-flop, Flip-flop,flip-flop!!" __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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Fubar2Niner Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: London. UK Posts: 4,139 Downloads: 275 Uploads: 0	All hail to Dipstick-In-Cheif Soon to be Dick-Wad

01-07-17, 09:48 AM	#150
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	The left has two options 1. take responsibility for running a poor campaign and change their corrupt behavior 2. Blame Russia,, risk WW3 and cover up their corrupt behavior. I guess they are going with 2