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Old 02-24-2015, 04:35 PM   #1
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Default STEAM and other Download-Versions of SH3

Hello fans of SH3,

I am re-collecting a heap of documents for those who want to try SH3 for the first time or return from SH5 and run into the always same issues, therefore it is necessary to assess the information available and get it straight.

There certainly are ways and reasons to NOT use a downloaded version. I myself got mine from eBay and am still running it with Win8, but this thread will deal with the DOWNLOAD-VERSIONS available, because this is so often asked here.

All this derives from various Subsim-Threads and will of course make its way into the S3G (Silent Hunter III-Guide).

Constructive comments appreciated. TiA.
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Old 02-24-2015, 04:41 PM   #2
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STEAM

The socalled STEAM-Version has its flaws, but certainly its PROs, too, which I am trying to summarize briefly here:


PRO:
  • very cheap, I saw it for 2,49 !
  • easy to install
  • works with every Windows-version out of the box - but! only! stock!
  • you can circumvent all the CONs by use of parallel installs and only or add mods to those backups after running the STEAM-FiX.

CON:
  • STEAM does not allow modifications of the SH3.exe (you would require full write permissions to the steam folder)
  • STEAM games are installed to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common, i.e. you will run into problems with patches such as S3H, S3S and others
  • you are tied to STEAM's DRM and STEAM must be running in the background when you play
  • Known issues:
    - "Failed to start game (app already running)"
    - [HELP] steam's sh3.exe won't start anymore!
    - STEAM and SH3 issues
    - SH3 Commander and STEAM

SOLUTIONS/WORKAROUNDS:
  • Do NOT run SH3 using STEAM-Launcher again! NEVER!
  • By all means always setup your mods OUTSIDE Steam's folders. DO NOT DISCUSS THIS! IT IS MANDATORY!
  • By all means change the installation-path to something OUTSIDE C:\Program Files (x86) as it brings up UAC-issues that you do not want.
    Solution: This tool does all that for you! Read SFSF-MODULE - The New Solution for "Steam" & "Starforce"
  • By all means DISABLE the "Verify game cache integrity" option, which is on by default for all games you buy from STEAM. This option checks all game files in about 5 minutes, and will replace any missing or corrupted ones it finds. The drawback is that if this option is ON, it will always remove mods and applied patches because it believes those files are "corrupted" resulting in that you got the "original STEAM-version".

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Old 02-24-2015, 04:45 PM   #3
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AMAZON

The AMAZON-Version is a little less known, but very popular, too - and Subsim gets a little kickback!

PRO:
+ only verifies the sh3.exe during first execution, after that you can patch it
+
+

CON:
-
-
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Old 02-24-2015, 04:47 PM   #4
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Gamersgate

This version is something that I only newly have heard of. Anyone with info?

PRO:
+ only verifies the sh3.exe during first execution, after that you can patch it
+ installs where you want

CON:
- not DRM-free either: 'Tagés' is used as the DRM-software(basically another copy-protection)
-
-

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Old 02-24-2015, 05:53 PM   #5
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What about the version to can get direct from Ubisoft (as a download) - is this moddable?: http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubiemea/en...unter_III.html
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Old 02-24-2015, 05:55 PM   #6
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Ubisoft's Ubistore

Ubisoft offers a version, too:

PRO:
+
+
+

CON:
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Old 02-25-2015, 03:00 AM   #7
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There seem to be problems with the UBISoft store at the moment, it accepts my password when I log in, but when I check out it asks me for my password again and doesn't recognise it. The same thing happens if I reset my password to a new one and try that. I've emailed them to try to find out what's going wrong
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Old 03-05-2015, 03:53 AM   #8
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Most of the problems that arise here are when people try to mod their initial STEAM-installation.

Keep that clean.

COPY your MAIN game out of there (programs/steam/more steam ship/deep steam ship/stinking steamy steam subfolder ship/obscure steamy steam subfolder ship/Silent hunter III), onto a different Partition, or out of the programs folder.

maybe on C:/Games(this is a new folder)/Silent hunter III
and a copy on: C:/Games/Silent Hunter GWX
another one on C:/Games/Silent Hunter LSHIII
...and so on

Do it as many times as you want. use MultishIII to make the difference between your different games.

And even better let S3F do all this copy and fix-work for you.

But just leave your initial STEAM-copy untouched and unchanged. period.

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Old 03-10-2015, 08:57 AM   #9
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Gamersgate

This version is something that I only newly have heard of. Anyone with info?
I have this version, doesn't have any problems. It's DRM-free, install it where you want. The hardcoded fixes work excellent.
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Old 03-10-2015, 02:57 PM   #10
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Thank you!

I have added this info to post#4.

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Old 03-10-2015, 03:15 PM   #11
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I have the amazon version, never had any issue with any modifications or the V16B1 exe patch.
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Old 03-11-2015, 05:23 AM   #12
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We are now taking a look into a "tricky" SH3.exe

The Direct2Drive SH3.exe - only approx. 10 MB

This appears to be only a loader which executes the actual exe from a different name and includes the SECUROM COPYPROTECTION.

And that is why of course S3H cannot find a suitable sh3.exe under that name.

Let's see...
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Old 03-24-2015, 04:45 AM   #13
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Okay I now have that exe ALONG THE REST.

I might provide a patch if there need be.
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Old 03-26-2015, 07:28 PM   #14
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I am play via Wine on a MacBook Pro and downloaded the Amazon version and ran into issues trying to install.

Ended up downloading the GamersGate version and installed with no issues.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:33 PM   #15
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