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Old 04-25-17, 11:11 AM   #136
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Probably just having hard time finding NK on the map.
It's not that hard
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Old 04-25-17, 11:59 AM   #137
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USS Michigan have been given the order to transit to somewhere outside the Korean peninsula.

It shall not be a part in the ongoing exercise or soon to come exercise.

As it says in the Danish article by sending this sub loaded with nuclear, is sending a clear message to Kim.

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The Michigan is not/should not be carrying nuclear weapons, she was converted in 2007 from an SSBN into an SSGN to carry 154 Tomahawks.
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Old 04-25-17, 12:27 PM   #138
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The Michigan is not/should not be carrying nuclear weapons, she was converted in 2007 from an SSBN into an SSGN to carry 154 Tomahawks.
You are right I stand corrected.

Had to open my CMANO-to investigate

USS Michigan a Ohio class submarine was before 2008 a submarine, loaded with all from Trident C4 to Trident D5, depending on year.

Now she carry 154 UGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV Tactom

These tomahawks can do a lot of damage too.

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Old 06-20-17, 04:37 PM   #139
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Default retaliation against North Korea ?

(to the moderators. Merge this with the Other North Korea thread, which I can't find)

About 30 minutes ago I saw on the primetime news, the Danish Journalist who's an political expert on USA, saying

"In the United States, between the politicians on both sides, there is a broad consensus that North Korea should be punished for the killing of Otto Warmbier

He also said.

They are a little dubious about this because they are afraid North Korea Will retaliate by attacking South Korea or Japan.

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Old 06-20-17, 04:40 PM   #140
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Old 06-21-17, 05:18 AM   #141
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Now she carry 154 UGM-109E Tomahawk Blk IV Tactom
This is partially wrong.

CMANO can indeed be used for basic research, but like any unofficial source, needs to be seen in context.
This is the weapon they decided to give it in the game/sim - in RL it can carry various types of UGM-109, of course, depending on mission/target.

I would eat a broom with stick if it would have indeed 154 missiles of the same type, as this would narrow its tactical versatility quite a lot.
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This is partially wrong.

CMANO can indeed be used for basic research, but like any unofficial source, needs to be seen in context.
This is the weapon they decided to give it in the game/sim - in RL it can carry various types of UGM-109, of course, depending on mission/target.

I would eat a broom with stick if it would have indeed 154 missiles of the same type, as this would narrow its tactical versatility quite a lot.
Thank you for correcting me.

I thought that people behind this CMANO made their homework before writing information about weapons and other stuff into the game.

I still love this game.

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Thank you for correcting me.

I thought that people behind this CMANO made their homework before writing information about weapons and other stuff into the game.

I still love this game.

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You weren't wrong - just a tad inaccurate.

CMANO is severely complex, I have it myself but haven't played much yet.
However, the database I did check and also used for research about sensor systems and when US submarines did use what sensors etc.
For that, it seems accurate enough.

I just checked mine and here the different UGM-109 are actually listed for the class, however, for some reason it only carries one type - but could carry the others as well from what I understand (speaking game):
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Old 06-21-17, 02:55 PM   #145
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It's not that hard
Yes it is, it is easily mistaken for the North Korean Sea.
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Old 06-21-17, 03:06 PM   #146
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Back to topic-from the discussion about CMANO.

When I heard this Journalist saying these thing in Danish, my first thought was.

Will we in the next 1-2 month see some kind of a military strike on North Korea or will they add some more politicians or others from the Elite in North Korea to the Embargo-list, as an punishment for killing Otto Warmbier.

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I don't think a military strike would be appropriate, effective, nor justified.

It is strange that the US government restricts US citizens traveling to Cuba but not to North Korea where we are still technically at war.
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Someone wrote somewhere on the Internet
"Trump's ways are inscrutable" Therefore, we should, when it comes to Trump, be prepared for either a military strike or further embargo or something else.

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I don't think a military strike would be appropriate, effective, nor justified.

It is strange that the US government restricts US citizens traveling to Cuba but not to North Korea where we are still technically at war.
I think Russia is still at war with Japan.
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Old 06-22-17, 02:05 AM   #150
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I don't think a military strike would be appropriate, effective, nor justified.
That's the way I see it too. You go to a country run by an inhumane dictatorship and where people consider you to be an enemy and you break the country's rules (no matter how ridiculous you think they are) then you have to suffer the consequences, including death through massive abuse. Sorry, but that's how the game is played in those countries and that guy went there voluntarily.
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